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	<title>Comments on: Autofocus Reality Part 1: Center-Point, Single-Shot Accuracy</title>
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		<title>By: Rick N</title>
		<link>http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/07/autofocus-reality-part-1-center-point-single-shot-accuracy/comment-page-1#comment-16857</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. You have confirmed my observations with clear concise data.
Someone needs to start a business verifying the performance characteristics of each lens copy to a measurable standard that would instil confidence in the product. A few extra hundred for a certified lens would be worth it.  This service could also provide an independent evaluation of a lens when repair by the manufacturers service centre fails to resolve a perceived issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. You have confirmed my observations with clear concise data.<br />
Someone needs to start a business verifying the performance characteristics of each lens copy to a measurable standard that would instil confidence in the product. A few extra hundred for a certified lens would be worth it.  This service could also provide an independent evaluation of a lens when repair by the manufacturers service centre fails to resolve a perceived issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, another great series of articles!  (I haven&#039;t read parts 2 and 3 yet).  

I think my camera has issues with the shim spacing (or whatever) of the focusing screen, because I can almost never focus accurately via the viewfinder (no matter what lens I use...telephoto, wide angle, fast aperture, etc...and I do have the finder&#039;s focus adjusted for my eye).  It&#039;s possible this can only be so accurate, at least with lesser-than-pro series &quot;crop&quot; bodies, but I can only guess.  Mine does have the &quot;pentaprism&quot; and not &quot;pentamirror&quot;.

On an unrelated front, have you thought of doing noise test comparisons, like what they did here? http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/digital-slrs-hybrids/canon-eos-1dx-1091200/review/page:4#articleContent

I find this particular test even more interesting than what DXOmark has done so far.  Especially surprising is that the 5D3 they tested, outperformed all others in a narrow range from ~ISO 25k to 50k...besting even the D4 and 1DX.  I&#039;m sure there are logical explanations and counter arguments, but still it&#039;s nice to look at a graphed comparison of noise and dynamic range directly comparing the latest and &quot;best&quot; DSLR&#039;s. 

If you&#039;ve already done a similar test, I apologize for not seeing it.  I&#039;m less familiar with your new website&#039;s layout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, another great series of articles!  (I haven&#8217;t read parts 2 and 3 yet).  </p>
<p>I think my camera has issues with the shim spacing (or whatever) of the focusing screen, because I can almost never focus accurately via the viewfinder (no matter what lens I use&#8230;telephoto, wide angle, fast aperture, etc&#8230;and I do have the finder&#8217;s focus adjusted for my eye).  It&#8217;s possible this can only be so accurate, at least with lesser-than-pro series &#8220;crop&#8221; bodies, but I can only guess.  Mine does have the &#8220;pentaprism&#8221; and not &#8220;pentamirror&#8221;.</p>
<p>On an unrelated front, have you thought of doing noise test comparisons, like what they did here? <a href="http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/digital-slrs-hybrids/canon-eos-1dx-1091200/review/page:4#articleContent" rel="nofollow">http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/digital-slrs-hybrids/canon-eos-1dx-1091200/review/page:4#articleContent</a></p>
<p>I find this particular test even more interesting than what DXOmark has done so far.  Especially surprising is that the 5D3 they tested, outperformed all others in a narrow range from ~ISO 25k to 50k&#8230;besting even the D4 and 1DX.  I&#8217;m sure there are logical explanations and counter arguments, but still it&#8217;s nice to look at a graphed comparison of noise and dynamic range directly comparing the latest and &#8220;best&#8221; DSLR&#8217;s. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve already done a similar test, I apologize for not seeing it.  I&#8217;m less familiar with your new website&#8217;s layout.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Cicala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Cicala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I don&#039;t think you can make any conclusion just by that. PDAF isn&#039;t going to be as accurate as contrast detection. But if you have a problem with consistent front or back focus then a microadjustment is in order. 

Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can make any conclusion just by that. PDAF isn&#8217;t going to be as accurate as contrast detection. But if you have a problem with consistent front or back focus then a microadjustment is in order. </p>
<p>Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice post. Thanks.

Now i have issues with my camera and AF all lenses behave differently. My short question is: if say Nikon 50 1.4 works perfectly on all distances and all focus points in LV, but has many AF issues in PDAF on the same camera as other lenses works well. Can I conclude that it&#039;s bad lens or problems with camera?

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice post. Thanks.</p>
<p>Now i have issues with my camera and AF all lenses behave differently. My short question is: if say Nikon 50 1.4 works perfectly on all distances and all focus points in LV, but has many AF issues in PDAF on the same camera as other lenses works well. Can I conclude that it&#8217;s bad lens or problems with camera?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Runyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Runyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coincidently, i&#039;ve been trying to find a better Canon 50 1.4 than my old one which has been improved by 2 visits to Canon service but is still disappointing wide open.  i&#039;ve tested 2 additional copies using Imatest.  One appeared to be slightly better both with micro-adjusted pdaf and cdaf, one is much better with cdaf than pdaf, and the old lens is MUCH better with pdaf than cdaf. one of the tested lenses has focus shift in the opposite direction of the old lens.

am i wasting my time trying to find a copy of this lens that will autofocus wide open with decent resolution (all of the lenses clean up nicely between f2.8 and f4)- i&#039;m looking for decent (if not great) resolution off center for subject isolation and autofocus wide open for street shooting in low light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coincidently, i&#8217;ve been trying to find a better Canon 50 1.4 than my old one which has been improved by 2 visits to Canon service but is still disappointing wide open.  i&#8217;ve tested 2 additional copies using Imatest.  One appeared to be slightly better both with micro-adjusted pdaf and cdaf, one is much better with cdaf than pdaf, and the old lens is MUCH better with pdaf than cdaf. one of the tested lenses has focus shift in the opposite direction of the old lens.</p>
<p>am i wasting my time trying to find a copy of this lens that will autofocus wide open with decent resolution (all of the lenses clean up nicely between f2.8 and f4)- i&#8217;m looking for decent (if not great) resolution off center for subject isolation and autofocus wide open for street shooting in low light.</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaquín</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roger,
I&#039;ve just come back from a trip in Vietnam and Camboya. I&#039;ve shot more that 5000 frames in 3 weeks.  I&#039;ve used a 5DMKII. 

30% of my shoots are out of focus. A third of them (10%) are due to my wrong using the camera ( after checking exif data) but still 20% of my shoots are simply out of focus, even using the new 70-200 f/2.8L IS II

Trying to find an explanation, this site crossed my path. Roger, this is the clearest and most interenting reading I&#039;ve found by far. Thanks a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger,<br />
I&#8217;ve just come back from a trip in Vietnam and Camboya. I&#8217;ve shot more that 5000 frames in 3 weeks.  I&#8217;ve used a 5DMKII. </p>
<p>30% of my shoots are out of focus. A third of them (10%) are due to my wrong using the camera ( after checking exif data) but still 20% of my shoots are simply out of focus, even using the new 70-200 f/2.8L IS II</p>
<p>Trying to find an explanation, this site crossed my path. Roger, this is the clearest and most interenting reading I&#8217;ve found by far. Thanks a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Roger for the feedback :) I have recently been looking at a pile of my old 35mm negatives from last century and scanning them into the computer at around 20 megapixel equivalent.  In hindsight I am amazed at how many of my old shots haven&#039;t achieved critical focus.  Most of them were taken with a Nikon F4 or FM2.

In comparison, a lot more negs and slides taken with a rangefinder (Leica etc) had pin sharp focus.

My critical focus hit rate on the negs / slides taken with a Hasselblad 500-series was abysmal.

I am suspecting that SLR focusing has always been a compromise thanks to mirror box, mirror, and focusing screen alignment tolerances, but that they haven&#039;t really come to prominence until high resolution digital sensors have come to the fore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Roger for the feedback <img src='http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have recently been looking at a pile of my old 35mm negatives from last century and scanning them into the computer at around 20 megapixel equivalent.  In hindsight I am amazed at how many of my old shots haven&#8217;t achieved critical focus.  Most of them were taken with a Nikon F4 or FM2.</p>
<p>In comparison, a lot more negs and slides taken with a rangefinder (Leica etc) had pin sharp focus.</p>
<p>My critical focus hit rate on the negs / slides taken with a Hasselblad 500-series was abysmal.</p>
<p>I am suspecting that SLR focusing has always been a compromise thanks to mirror box, mirror, and focusing screen alignment tolerances, but that they haven&#8217;t really come to prominence until high resolution digital sensors have come to the fore.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Cicala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Cicala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelvin,

It was live view manual focusing on a star chart - just because that&#039;s where I&#039;m most accurate and I wanted a good baseline. I&#039;m not sure how accurate pentaprism would be in comparison: in theory it should be as good, but if the focusing assembly is shimmed improperly it can front focus or back focus. 

Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelvin,</p>
<p>It was live view manual focusing on a star chart &#8211; just because that&#8217;s where I&#8217;m most accurate and I wanted a good baseline. I&#8217;m not sure how accurate pentaprism would be in comparison: in theory it should be as good, but if the focusing assembly is shimmed improperly it can front focus or back focus. </p>
<p>Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was RogerView manual focusing done using the focusing screen or the TFT screen?  Just wondering whether careful manual focusing with the pentaprism focusing screen can be trusted as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was RogerView manual focusing done using the focusing screen or the TFT screen?  Just wondering whether careful manual focusing with the pentaprism focusing screen can be trusted as well.</p>
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		<title>By: boels069</title>
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		<dc:creator>boels069</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a list of some USM lenses with the number of steps of the AF-stepping mechanism:
http://redmodz.com/red-birger-lens-mount-unofficial-mini-faq-and-thread-compilation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a list of some USM lenses with the number of steps of the AF-stepping mechanism:<br />
<a href="http://redmodz.com/red-birger-lens-mount-unofficial-mini-faq-and-thread-compilation/" rel="nofollow">http://redmodz.com/red-birger-lens-mount-unofficial-mini-faq-and-thread-compilation/</a></p>
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