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Sony FE 135mm f1.8 GM Early MTF Results

As is sometimes the case, I got access to a couple of pre-release copies of the new Sony FE 135mm f1.8 GM lens. Of course, if I get access, it gets MTF bench tested. I mounted the first one, sipped my coffee and then lost my mind and started shouting various expletives, enough to bring Aaron running in from the other room to see what I’d broken.

I hadn’t broken anything; I just saw MTF curves higher than anything I’d ever seen in a normal-range lens. (Lenses like 400mm f/2.8 super telephotos, are about this high. But those are super telephotos. And f/2.8.)

Anyway, I tested the two copies we had and sent a subtle note of congratulations to some friends at Sony. The note turned into a video conference with one of the designers of the lens and some phone calls that went like “you can write up those two copies” and “no, I only write up 10-copy sets”. This turned into Sony giving me to access to 8 more copies and permission release the test results early.

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So, this write up is my usual MTF post; 10 new-from-box copies tested and averaged. They are Sony’s own copies, however, not the usual lenses we’ve bought off the shelf. I’ll repeat the test in 6 weeks when we get our own copies, but I have no reason to think it will be different. And just to be clear, Sony didn’t hover over me or approve my results; they’ll see this blog post for the first time exactly when you do.

A Bit About the Lens

I was permitted to share a bit of the background I was given on this lens; it has some new features. The paired linear motors moving two separate focusing groups haven’t been done before. There have been some attempts at paired focusing groups in zooms, but not in primes, and the pairs have generally been one ring and one linear motor. Also, these are new linear motors (depending on how you count, 4th generation) that are much more powerful and robust than earlier ones. This is the same motor design used in the Sony FE 400mm f/2.8 GM OSS lens, which we showed you in the teardown of that lens.

If I understand correctly, this focusing system allows the 135mm f1.8 GM to execute up to 60 AF instructions per second. {Correction: I misunderstood this part during the teleconference. What was said was that the A9 can give 60 instructions per second, and that this and the 400 f/2.8 come closest to keeping up with that.} That is faster than anything else Sony has made and does it to a higher degree of accuracy than they’ve achieved before.

Optically, the lens has what Sony’s engineers call the largest ‘extreme’ aspheric element ever made, and it’s up in the front of the lens, which they say helps both sharpness and bokeh. I think ‘extreme’ aspheric may be more of a marketing, than an optical, term. But what was very clear is they have (and I saw micrographs to demonstrate it) been able to polish this aspheric to a smoother degree than has been possible, reducing or eliminating any onion-skin bokeh.

Sharpness Testing Sony 135mm GM

There were more features, like the 11-blade aperture and the aluminum-magnesium composite chassis (the same material used in the Sony 400 f2.8 again). I’m not trying to make this into a lens review; it’s just my report of MTF tests. But I wanted to let you know that I was really impressed by the discussions I had with Sony engineers. As many of you who follow this blog know, ‘impressed’ has not always been my opinion of Sony’s lenses. But I’m impressed this time.

MTF Results

Let’s make this simple and straightforward. In the center, that’s the highest MTF I’ve seen on a non-supertelephoto lens. The highest. Let’s put particular emphasis on the purple line, which is 50 lp/mm. That’s a higher frequency than any manufacturer tests (that we know of), appropriate for fine detail on the highest resolution cameras. We would consider an MTF of 0.5 at 50 lp/mm to be very acceptable. This is hugely better, nearly 0.8 in the center. We’ve never seen that kind of resolution before.

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The MTF drops away from the center, of course, but even at the very edges, the readings are still quite high.

Let’s compare it to the Sigma 135mm f1.8, which until today was the sharpest 135mm we had tested. In the outer 1/2 of the image they’re pretty even, but in the center half, the Sony GM is dramatically better, especially at higher resolutions.

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I’ll also throw up a comparison with the Zeiss 135mm Batis, which is really excellent, although not wide-aperture. The Batis has a considerable advantage since it’s being tested at f/2.8. Even at f/1.8, though, the Sony 135mm GM is clearly better in the center half of the image.

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But Wait! There’s More!

Aaron brought up that this was the highest center resolution either of us remembered seeing on standard testing, with 50 lp/mm reaching a ridiculous 0.78 MTF. We have, in the past, tested lenses at a higher frequency for ultra-high resolution sensors (150 megapixels). We found that a lot of lenses that were really good at standard frequencies died quickly at higher frequencies.

So we tested the 135mm GM up to 100 lp/mm, something we don’t normally do.

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These results are insanely good. At 100 lp/mm the Sony 135mm f/1.8 GM has a higher MTF than most excellent primes do at 50 lp / mm. If you don’t speak MTF, basically that means this lens can resolve fine details that would be a blur on excellent lenses.

Back when we were doing that ultra-high resolution testing we tested all the lenses stopped down to f/2.8 or f/4; there was no way to get the kind of resolution our client needed otherwise. So we tried the 100 lp test at f/2.8. Honestly, I thought the resolution wouldn’t go up all that much. As is so often the case, I thought wrong.

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No lens we’ve ever tested has resolved 100 lp/mm this well at any aperture. One other lens was close, but I can’t tell you the name of it. We were under such strict nondisclosure that we never referred to it by name. It was just referred to as ‘the lens in question’ and was a huge prototype. But even that lens wasn’t quite this good at 100 lp/mm.

What does this mean for you? Well, in a couple of years if you are shooting a 90-megapixel camera, this lens will be the one that wrings the most detail out of that sensor. Right now it looks at your 43 megapixels and goes, “that’s cute.”

Summary

This has been an MTF test. It has only been an MTF test. If it had been an actual lens review, I would have 762 images showing you pretty models, dramatic landscapes, and bokeh examples. Lens reviewers will do that in a while; be patient.

But as far as the test goes, the results are pretty simple. This is the sharpest lens we’ve tested. Period. (At last count, that’s out of 300+ lenses tested.)

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

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March, 2019

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • xaositectt

    I didn’t say anything “over and over again” 😉 you didn’t even manage to read the 3 lines I wrote you without making up random shit about it.
    your comment is nothing but a word salad about random topics and personal comments about sony fanboys, which for some weird reason you think I am, a person who doesn’t even own a sony camera 😉 and your personal comments are basically just “NO ITS YOU WHO IS A FANBOY”. are you like 12 year old? how about instead of rambling like a childish moron you provide explanation or evidence as to how Sony “cheaped out”, a retarded statement that you pulled straight out of your ass.

  • Michael Clark

    I bet it is about different enlargement ratios for different format sizes to be displayed at the same size. That goes for both lp/mm and DoF.

  • Michael Clark

    You are probably thinking of the EF 135mm f/2 L. At one time a few years ago Roger said something to the effect that it was his favorite lens at that time.

    The EF 100mm f/2 is a more humble lens that is the larger “cousin” to the EF 85mm f/1.8. Other than the differences in focal length and maximum aperture their design is very, very similar. The front six elements (the front and middle groups) are almost identical in concept. Only the rear groups are significantly different.

    While not considered “bad” by any means, The 100/2 is not the legend the 135/2 is for many long time Canon shooters.

  • Michael Clark

    Actually, he said the Sony FE 135/1.8 GM thought their 43 MP cameras were cute.

  • John Draper

    And as an electronics company they are far ahead of Canon or Nikon (probably why Nikon uses Sony sensors in their better cameras). Years ahead in mirrorless and great in “steadyshot” (in camera stabilization, so hand held in slightly longer exposures).

    Of course, like anything there is a downside – IMO. No mirror to protect the sensor from dust and debris esp. when changing lenses. Maybe should have a curtain to close when a lens is removed and auto open when the camera is on. Just my opinion.

  • Of course they hand assemble. To some degree they hand inspect. But no, they do not hand-polish or hand grind any lens elements, neither in the current supertelephotos, nor in any other current lens.

  • PJ Smith

    Obviously you don’t know anything about optics. Of course it cost less to produce a super-tele with only one large front element. You just say the same thing over and over again while not actually saying anything. Sony is an electronics company, not a camera or optics company. That is why they have Zeiss and that is why they outsource repairs, etc. There is nothing wrong with Sony or loving Sony. Whatever makes you happy and whatever camera works for you, that’s all that matter’s. I have tried to remain civil and even praise the Sony A9, but you Sony fanboys get so butthurt when someone points something out about your beloved Sony. You are the worst of people in the camera community. You never admit when you’re wrong and you defend Sony, even when I also am saying some nice things about Sony. Why can’t someone like something, but be critical of something else? This has nothing to do with brand loyalty.

  • PJ Smith

    Oh ok so machines and robots make everything on the current super-tele lenses. I guess the videos from inside the factories are faked. So your saying Nikon and Canon do not hand assemble, inspect and polish, etc. the glass on pro-level glass. So everything I have read and witnessed over the years is all fake? Also since you chimed in with the Sony lover’s, would you not agree with me that the Sony 400mm 2.8 would cost less to produce than the Nikon. Seeing as it has one front element and not four?

  • Neither Nikon nor Canon ‘hand make’, ‘hand grind’ or ‘hand anything’ on the current supertelephoto line. The 1200mm f5.6 yes, but that was long ago in a factory far, far, away.

  • xaositectt

    while I think your ability to pour 2000 characters of random pretentious crap here about imaginary dosagreements is nothing sort of amazing, you are unfortunately still full of shit about sony “cheaping out” with the sony lens. your points about “overcorrecting” and “cheaping out” are the pure nonsensical bullshit of a salty nikon fanboy.

  • PJ Smith

    I have never in my life been on Sony Alpha anything, I don’t even own Sony. I have tried out the A9 and I really liked it overall and someday may switch to Sony. However yes they did cheap out on the 400mm 2.8, as it only has one thin front element. If you guys knew anything at all about optics and glass, then you wouldn’t be arguing. A super-tele lens cost so much money because of the hand made, hand ground and hand polished very large front elements. The reason the Canon 1200mm 5.6 cost $100,000 is for that exact reason. It takes a month to make the front elements. Sony also uses a cheap mount on their camera’s, have you ever seen one being broken? You can snap them in half with your hands. Even though the A9 is probably a better camera than a Nikon D5 or Canon 1Dx, it is definitely cheaper to make and feels cheaper in your hands. You guys sound like such idiot Sony fanboys. You know nothing about what your talking about.

  • xaositectt

    ah the “sony cheaped out” guy from the sony alpha forums. nice to see you spread the same crap everywhere.

  • Hunter45

    “feeded”???? I don’t think that is a word. And spell-check flags it, too.

  • Adam Dosskey

    Wow!

  • David A. Grano-De-Oro

    This is great. Personally I would love for a lens manufacturer to make lenses that are all apochromatic as well as resolving the football shaped bokeh/ mechanical vignette around the outer frame of the image without resorting to an STF design.

  • It’s better. I own the a mount and the sigma 135 and this shows better than the sigma in sharpnes, and the sigma is better than the a mount sonar. On the other hand the a mount 135 can have truly magical moments, yet to get one with the sigma.

  • A thoroughly written, well-researched, and complete comment.

  • Steve

    Such nonsense …

  • Frédéric Auchère

    Thank you for the all the very informative tests. For comparison, do you have the MTF measurements for the Rokinon (or Samyang)?Doing astrophotography, so the MTF comparison would be super interesting.

  • mikko

    Thanks for your kind reply, Roger.

    I have indeed had a few personal experiences with Voigtlander copy-to-copy variation, specifically the UWA Heliars. I believe the Apo Lanthar makro lenses are made with smaller tolerances, though.

    Both Apo Lanthar lenses have enjoyed excellent reception by online accounts, and are largely believed to be among the technically finest lenses available for the E-mount. None of the available reviews feature MTF charts, but clearly suggest these could be spectacular and perhaps on par with the Sony 135mm f/1.4 GM.

    I own both lenses and can only confirm their fine performance, almost flawless apochromatic correction, beautiful color rendition and saturation, superb contrast and microcontrast, but my geek enthusiast side can’t easily renounce the idea of seeing the measured prowess of some of today’s finest optic designs.

    Who knows, perhaps an opportunity could present itself in the future for a more accurate testing scenario.

    Thanks again for your reply and keep the stream of interesting reviews, discoveries and tests flowing.

    Cheers!

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  • We have some Voigtlanders, but often not enough copies to do a series. Voigtlanders are particularly high with sample-to-sample variation so I’m not willing to publish less than a full set of 10.

  • mikko

    Very impressive numbers there, interesting indeed what this lens accomplishes.

    I am new to this fantastic blog – but slowly devouring it 🙂 – so I’m not entirely sure the question I have is pertinent:

    Since you have a few Voigtlander lenses for E-mount in your rental catalogue, is there any chance you might carry out MTF tests on them in the future?

    I couldn’t help thinking that Voigtlander’s two recent Apo Lanthar makro lenses for Sony E-mount might yield some interesting results. Not to mention a tear-down.

    On the other hand, and this goes to the pertinence of my query, I have never found or stumbled on MTF tests on any of Cosina’s Voigtlandet lenses, and it got me thinking that it could be for a reason other than lesser popularity of manual focus lenses, and perhaps contraints imposed by the manufacturer. Not that time and money aren’t the most obvious constraints, and considering that the consumer base for such lenses probably represents a very small niche, it might not be the most obvious investment.

    I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d like to see some MTF charts for Cosina’s Voigtlander lenses for E-mount, so at least I could leave that wish here for the record 🙂

    Anyhow, having said that, I’ve got some 15 tabs worth of juicy articles on this blog waiting for me 😉

    Cheers!

  • Scott Kirkpatrick

    Leica’s MTF charts have always been as calculated. But the whole SL Summicron series has MTF charts that look every bit as good as Roger is showing for these, with the 35 (now shipping) the strongest of the lot. Also, This series has two linear motors shifting two separated focus elements, so it is not clear that the new Sonys are the first to do this. I hope Roger and Aaron get their L-mount setup to handle the L-mount alliance products soon, from Leica, Panasonic, and Sigma.

  • Charles FX

    What happened with the early Zeiss datasets? I remember Zeiss had to come in at some point to recommend / refine the testing done on their Otus MTF’s ? Seem to be a lot of variables / changes to these MTF tests done here…. Sony supplying units also skewing data no doubt – be interesting to see the retail editions…

  • Chik Sum

    Hi Roger,
    Any insight into other optical correction? Like pleasing bokeh, lack of coma etc.
    From what I read and lust for the otus 50mm and 28mm was that it’s a great dslr lens which excels at everything not just shear sharpness, will be interesting to have such a comparison

  • Nick Podrebarac

    Looking forward to my rental of it next month…sorry for adding to your problem 🙂

  • David Alexander

    I’ve yet to see anarchy among the followers of this blog. Perhaps in the forums, but surely you’re not monitoring those? We like when you pontificate.

  • Are the Leica MTF charts calculated or measured?

    Lines that high look a calculated chart where diffraction isn’t accounted for.

  • Dave Hachey

    Hard to split a lens without decentering it. My kids never liked to share.

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