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With the recent camera releases (or maybe Spring fever) I’ve been rather amazed watching various photography forums have major melt downs during the last few weeks. I said something about cameras and lenses just being tools, not life and death, and got immediately annihilated. They aren’t just tools, I was told, they are the means to make a living for some people, and the passionate hobby of others. That got me thinking, though: I have friends who make their living as carpenters, and others for whom woodworking is a passionate hobby. I got to thinking how silly their forums would seem if they acted like we do:
So, here’s a thread from Hammeruser.com

Thread Title: Nails for Stiletto TB15?
Hammeruser: I’ve saved up for months and just got my Stiletto TB15SS titanium hammer. At $220 they’re pricey but with the replaceable stainless steel face, ultra light weight handle, and excellent balance I can see myself using this for many years. I’ve had it 3 days now and it’s just wonderful. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good framing nail to use with this hammer?

Hammergeek: You say it’s wonderful but I don’t see any photos of nails you’ve driven. I think it’s just overpriced crap.
Hammerfiend: You know, Ken Rockbuster said the Stiletto is really overpriced and he wouldn’t have one. For $14 you can get a Tekton rubber mallet set. It’s not any good for driving nails, but it is great for body work on your car. That’s what Ken recommends.

MC: If you really were a professional, you’d be using a Graintex SH 1660 sledgehammer. It’s got a 36 inch handle and 20 lb head and can tear through walls in a heartbeat. Your Stiletto can’t touch this.

Hammeruser: I do framing work and carpentry, so tearing through walls really doesn’t apply to my work.
M.C.: That’s because you have absolutely no skills. A good hammer user can drive nails with a 20 pound sledghammer with no problem. You’re one of those rich doctors, aren’t you, that thinks upgrading your hammer is going to make you a better carpenter?
Hammeruser: Here’s a picture of some framing I did with the hammer yesterday in about 2 hours. I really think it’s going to make me more productive.

Hammertime: I blew up those pictures 200%, ran them through Photoshop and measured the arctan radius of the depth of the nailheads. It’s obvious that you were torquing the hammer from right to left when using it, which makes all of the framing you did inconsequenctial and of no use to anyone. A better hammer doesn’t make up for poor technique.
Banger: A real carpenter could have done that with rusty wire and a rock. It’s not about the equipment, it’s about the carpenter.
Hammerangel2: User, don’t pay any attention to M.C., he’s an absolute Graintex fanboy and has lost all perspective.
M.C.: How would you know what I am? I’ve made hundreds of dollars every year with my Graintex tearing down walls, which makes me a full-time professional. You amateurs make me sick.
Newhammerer: I’ve got an order in for mine through Amazon, but I’m concerned about getting a bad copy. How do I test the hammer when I first get it to make sure I have a good copy?
Thor: You guys are all wrong. I do all my work with an SE 11” rock pick. M. C., haven’t you watched Shawshank Redemtion? That guy hammered through a prison with an SE 11. Sure it took a few years, but anything you really love doing you’ll be doing for years. Just because something is newer, doesn’t make it better.

Hammeruser: Could anyone make some suggestions about good nails?
WhammerHammer: Why don’t you read the manual, do a Google search, and stop wasting our time with inane questions? Besides which, if you were a really good hammerer it wouldn’t matter what type of nails you used.
Whacker: H2O just released their latest Impact Index and the Stilleto rated 92.745, the highest impact per oblique force applied they’ve measured (except for jackhammers).
BigBanger: I don’t trust anything H20 measures, they’re numbers are all crap and don’t reflect real-world hammering. Besides, they down score everything to be equivalent to a 6 ounce jewelers hammer, which makes no sense. I prefer a ‘hand’s on’ review. Maxwell’s reviews over at SilverHammer.com really let you know how a hammer does in the real world.
Nailguru2: Hammeruser, while others will stick with the mainstream manufacturers, I’d take a real hard look at Grip Rite galvanized zinc coated sinkers. They’re a classic design, the sharpest nails made, and have amazing microcontact. Plus they’re hand assembled in Germany, not mass-produced in Taiwan.

Hammergeek: All I can say is after reading this thread I’ve cancelled my order for the Stilletto TB15. I’ll wait until the price drops. In the meantime I’m thinking about buying a used TB10 on the Buy and Sell forum.
Banger: Why don’t you rent one for a few days and see how you like it? Hammerrentals.com has them for $29 for 4 days. You could build a nice shed in that amount of time and really get a feel for how it works for you.
WhammerHammer: I agree with Hammergeek. The price is insane. I’ve started a petition to boycott Stilletto until they make their prices more reasonable. They think just because there’s a 4 month waiting list for their new hammers they can charge whatever they want. They’d sell twice as many if they just charged $25.
Euronailer: You guys think you’ve got it bad? Over here the Stilleto is 300 Euros and we’ve got 17% VAT. You guys in the U. S. need to stop complaining. I may fly over to the U. S. and pick one up, the money I save would pay for 1/162 of my air fare.
Justgotmine. I just finished using my brand new Stilleto. Here’s some shots of nails I’ve driven. Do you guys think I have a good copy of the hammer? The nails seem a little crooked to me, but that might just be technique.

Hammerguru: Justgotmine – looking at your images those are pretty long nails. Were you using good technique with a nail stabilizer? It also seems the hammer wasn’t lined up square to the target. It’s impossible for us to help you if you don’t eliminate all the other variables. It could be the hammer, could be the nails, could be technique.
Nailed’em: Nailguru, you’re always over here spouting about ‘microcontact’ and the way the nails ‘render’. That’s all BS put out by you Grip Right elitists. I can get 4 boxes of Smegma nails for what just one box of Grip Right costs and they work just fine.
Banger: I had to try 4 boxes of Smegma nails to get just one that was sharp.
Nailguru2: I’m not a Smegma fan by any means, but if you get soft nails you can send them back to the factory to be resharpened under warranty. I had them resharpen a box of mine and they were incredible!
Nailer: Did you guys see that Hammerrumors.com says that Big Blu hammers is coming out with an X-2 in time for Hammerkina? It’s going to have a synthetic rubber grip, fiberglass shock absorbing, and a semi-square rocker face. I’m holding off any new purchases till I see some nails driven with that baby.
Roger: In this case, it truly is the user, not the hammer: Hammertime
</Satire off>
Author’s note: This little post got a lot more attention than I had expected. The most interesting thing to me is that it’s now been reposted to forums involving gun collecting, coffee tasting, audiophiles, automobiles, computer programming, videography, racing bicycles, and (I should have known) various tools. All of whom identified with it. So I guess I learned today that it isn’t just photographers who act like we act. Apparently it’s people.
And from the “OMG are we sick or what?” department, Amazon is now nearly sold out of Stilletto TB15SS. Seriously. You guys just had to try it out, didn’t you? 🙂
Finally, don’t stop reading here. The reader’s comments are much funnier than the blog post. As always, I thank everyone who took the time to post comments. Once again the reader’s comments are better than the author’s blog.
PS – for the several people who suggested nail guns should be included in the discussion, that wouldn’t work because … .
… . wait for it …
this forum doesn’t discuss point and shoots.
376 Comments
Alan ·
Love this.
KyleSTL ·
Pendantic does not even describe it. Bravo, Roger, your prose is pointiant and entertaining. You are a self-proclaimed gear head, but you see the truth in the mindless banter on all the camera forums. My hat, sir, is off to you.
KyleSTL ·
P.S. I can’t believe the Stiletto TB15 is real and truly does have an MSRP of $260.
Drury ·
Absolutely hilarious! Made my day. Thank you.
Joe Towner ·
Roger, you know there is nothing worse than ‘board when it comes to opinions, especially when a product hasn’t been in lots of hands. Forums where you have a thick layer of anonymity and know that you’ll never lose a paying gig seem to remove the filters used in normal human relations.
I’d recommend you get the accessory kit for the TB15SS, otherwise you’ll have to wait a few weeks until the bare hammer is available 😀
Michael ·
Big fun – all together now: “I want to be your sledgehammer…” 😉
intrnst ·
Good lord of the wide apertures!
You have been blessed by Troy and Abed’s holy spirit. D*mn! I’m just imagining what will come tomorrow.
What a ride, thank you so much!
Rob ·
Hilarious!
Richard ·
Priceless, and so true. Especially love the “Maxwell’s reviews over at SilverHammer.com” – made me come over all metaphysical. Dare I say I think you hit the nail on the head.
Daniel Browning ·
This is great!
Shooter McGavin ·
This is too funny! (and too true, unfortunately)
Kris ·
Epic. I’ve seen battles like this on our photo forum. Almost EXACTLY like this…
AJ ·
So, is this supposed to be allegory? Seems as if I have heard this all before? Maybe its why I have stuck with my 1D Mark III for so long. I’ve subconsciously listened to all the nay-sayers.
Roger S. ·
Instant Classic.
A couple of years ago I gave a talk at an Audubon Society meeting titled “How to be a poor nature photographer”. At the time, I was shooting a Canon PowerShot S5 IS for nature photography (with many years experience with film SLR’s. The point was that it doesn’t take $5000 worth of gear to be a good photographer, as long as you understand and stay within the limits of the camera that you have. As they say, owning a Nikon doesn’t make you a photographer, it makes you a Nikon owner.
That said, I now shoot a 60D with a beautiful 100-400L that I bought from lensrentals.com.
LuCoOc ·
I think they should all go out and use their hammers, instead of worrying about their gear…
most awesome articel except for the pixel-peeper-quiz 😀
Al ·
Absolutely priceless! To quote Homer Simpson ‘it’s funny because it’s true!’
Dan Russell ·
Does anyone have any additional info for Hammerkina?
Adam ·
This is Genius. I’m personally a big fan of being the carpenter and the photographer.
a. scrubb ·
Roger, your perspective on matters continually puts a smile on my face. Well played!
dthree ·
This same thread has taken place in a lot of different internet communities: cars, PC modding, knitting. Come to think of it, I’d love to read a knitting forum flamewar.
BTW, I wonder if the Hammerston Institutional Forum for stock investors is getting any traffic from this post.
Chris in NC ·
Awesome! Perfect analogy of what I have read on DPR.
Kevin Levesque ·
http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-TB15MC-15-Ounce-Titanium-Milled-Face/dp/B00079R1YM
Amazon has it for $188.98 and a great return policy.
Joe Sankey ·
Beautiful Beatles reference, Roger. Well done.
Lee ·
Cancel my rental order for April 5th. I’ve got to speed that money on a TB15SS.
BTW my Canon 100-400 that my wife bought from Lensrentals and gave me as a “just because” present is AWESOME!
Roger S, you have the same rig as me. But I’m sure somebody has something way better;-)
Lee ·
spend not speed
Giorgio ·
I need to see side by side samples!
Benji A ·
Thank you. I happen to be a novice carpenter and serious photography hobbyist!
Walttom ·
Great parody — you ‘nailed it’.
Al ·
I wanna see a stiletto tb15ss unboxing video!
Arun ·
Hilarious!
Reading the reviews from amazon.com on the Stilleto hammer, it seems use of the lighter titanium hammer can save a carpenter’s elbow. None of the cameras can claim such a virtue.
http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-TBM14RSC-Mini-14-Replaceable-Titanium/product-reviews/B000UE2BQ2/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Josh C. ·
I think I hurt my spleen I was laughing so hard as I read this.
Half way through the thread “Could anyone make some suggestions about good nails…” ROFL
Sadly enough it puts this all into perspective.
Totally classic post!
Josh
Michael ·
BAH!!!!!
Roger, fabulous social satire. I love it!
Michael
Jean-Philippe Archibald ·
But did you know that the new iPad can nail almost the same nails as the Stiletto with the Hammer App at 2.99$. Of course you can download the Hammer Lite version for free but every nails will have a small Ad banner on the head.
Bob J ·
Excellent!
Bob
Jeremy Miles ·
Brilliant! Hit the nail on the head. 🙂
Maji ·
Great article… I can’t believe that you read all the postings on the various photo forums in that detail 🙂
Chad Kirkpatrick ·
I can really empathize with this post. Been there and now avoid forums for the most part. Photography has become tribal, just like politics. There’s a ton of excellent information online but most people only seek out what confirms their personal tribal bias and aggressively attach anything that deviates. The reason I check your blog daily is because you have a rational/objective approach to photography gear but also like to tinker, compare and analyze (gear head). Take heart that you are not alone in your approach.
Discussions would be far more productive if people could step back and realize that gear should be evaluated based on a particular application and for a particular person. Just because something works for you and your photographic interests doesn’t mean it will work as well for someone else and their interests.
Thanks for the post!
Chad
Tomas ·
I’m still laughing….. Excellent man.
Werner Orwat ·
Great!
Steve ·
laughed my ass off. Awesome!!!!
Bryan Willman ·
Not only is the TB15ss real, so is Big Blu Hammers, though they’re mostly known for a different class of hammer (blacksmith’s power hammers for open die forging.)
You left out the bits about “true professionals and serious amateurs use pneumatic nailers anyway, buy nails to fit your nail gun” and “if you built you structure from cement you wouldn’t have to face this question”.
AK Photo ·
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahaa.
Now I feel like an idiot for all the posts I’ve made the past two weeks. :]
Chris Hoffmann ·
As a photog and a Union Steamfitter, I must congratulate you (Roger) on being able to understand the ridiculousness of the camera wars in comparison with other trades. I’m fairly certain if conversations like these began on one of my job sites, the instigator would get his ass kicked for simply trying to be stupid.
Tim Harris ·
Terrific!!!! This is just another reason why my family loves LensRentals.com. I used to get massive laughs when I picked up my gear… but since we moved away, I’m completely missing the crew. Thanks everyone for making my day, again, even from Nashville!
Bob ·
“Smegma” !!! At first I thought of the TV show Red Dwarf (e.g. “You smeghead”), but then I thought of what smegma actually means — it’s a rather disgusting biological secretion (looking it up is probably not safe for work, even on wikipedia).
Perhaps a little cruel to old Sigma eh? They get enough bashing on photo forums as it is…
Ben ·
The onboxing video is nothing!! I have the original box of the Stiletto!!
You made my day, thanks!
Daniel Zaleski ·
So true, so funny, shame there are only some people who will read it and learn the lesson.
Thank you so much!
Ruty ·
I just smashed the heck out of my thumb with my NIkon D90 when I used it to hammer a 10 penny nail into my deck. I should have taken the 18-200 lens off and used the 50mm 1.8 I guess. Don’t know…I’m kinda new at this. Never built a deck. Could anyone recommend a good bandaid that will not stick to my wound and pull the scab off when I try to remove it? I tried the clear type but became nauseous looking at the wound. So I changed to the Mac and Cheese kind…http://www.amazon.com/Macaroni-Cheese-Bandages-Novelty-Band/dp/B0058U1GNM/ref=sr_1_15?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1333138763&sr=1-15. But during the night my dog chewed it off. As this has not healed yet, I need some advice ASAP.
Thanks!
PS: I now wonder if I should have used my old Coolpix since it’s shot to heck after dropping it while shooting baby robins in their nest last spring. My daughter said I should have worn Nike’s while on the ladder instead of my Asics since Nikon and NIke sound more compatible. What do you think?
shrox ·
Glue was left out of the conversation, I should necro this thread and mention glue.
shrox
Keith Knight ·
Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful. I haven’t laughed so hard in ages.
Thanks !!! for the much-needed entertainment.
Art D ·
This is the most entertaining thing I have read on a camera-related site in a long time! Thank you such much for the laughs Roger. I hope you had as much fun typing it as I had reading it 🙂
Siegfried ·
Girls better.
Yohan ·
I literally LOLed. A lot. Both because it’s ridiculous and because I can see myself in there.
But are you sure if such a forum dedicated to hammers and all things hammering really existed that they wouldn’t actually behave that way? 😉
jseliger ·
I can’t decide if this was intentional or a typo of the kind so common on forums: “they’re numbers are all crap,” instead of “their numbers are all crap.”
Kimberly ·
THANK YOU for this wonderful parody! These kinds of discussions make camera forums unreadable. You ought to have taken it a step further and create ten different “which nail should I buy for my camera” and “my hammer bends nails!” threads.
I read the forums regularly in hope of reading technique discussions and I don’t know why I keep bothering with all of the nonsense going on.
Ralph Conway ·
I liked your articles, Roger!
But this is an excample for your comedian genius!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Great start into a wunderfull weekend 😀
Ralph
Jon Sands ·
?”Ken Rockbuster”
oh my god, I can’t breathe
John Harrison ·
You must have had some fun writing this one! I am still rolling!
Love it!
John
Tim Swensen ·
I was going to order the TB15 from Bangin’ & Hammerin’
but they are closed for, like, nine days during Passover.
Isn’t there some place in Pennsylvania that will match the
New York guy’s prices? Was it Allen’s Hammers, or something?
😉
[Good one, Roger.]
Glenn ·
Roger, this is BRILLIANT. 🙂
Chris McKulka ·
Awesome and a perfect reflection of a sad reality :).
Steve ·
My gosh! This was hilarious!! I have tears in my eyes right now as I type this…ROTFLMAO!!!
This is the most insightful perspective of the current hammer scene that I’ve read in weeks.
I can’t wait for HammerKina 2012 later this Fall !!!
silverboi ·
This has got to be the funniest article about photography. Sounds just like dpreview.
Stone ·
Absolutely classic!! You’ve essentially described the DPR forum to a tee. This is great..lol!!
Shane Pope ·
Very nice to see some satire Roger. I do not think the vast majority of forum users will get it they rarely do!
Ralph Conway ·
Its not DPR only. I read dozends of threads and hundreds comments (not few created by myself :D) like this in every forum …
Perfect mirror and one of the funniest description of “gear head behavior” I ever saw.
Thank you one more time, Roger.
Ralph
Sam ·
Thanks for the Friday night laugh, I can go to bed happy now!
Brandt Steinhauser ·
This just adds to the reason why I love LensRentals.com.
Roger Cicala ·
For those who didn’t notice M. C.’s (“can’t touch this”) comments on the Hammerforum, today was M.C. Hammer’s 50th birthday, which is why I dropped the original chain saw theme and went with hammers 🙂
Roger
Susan Matthews ·
I love it!! Sounds just like a bunch of competitive photographers!!!!
G Dan Mitchell ·
You nailed it! Some of the sharpest commentary on this subject I’ve seen. A real bang-up job.You really hammered your point home.
Great DOF! (Dead On Framing…)
OK, I’ll stop now.
😉
Dan
iRandyP ·
Roger,
Your article, while humorous, does not render the detailed jocularity that I get from parodies over at werentlenses.com. In your article, the paragraphs are far to close together. While you can cram more jokes in per article this way, there is too much noise between the laughs. At werentlenses.com, they insert macro spaces between their paragraphs, which results in fewer but less noisy laughs. Nobody, not even outdoor laughers, need that density of jokes….it’s just plain stupid….and before you say it, NO, I AM NOT A TROLL!
gaz ·
Brilliant!
Thomas ·
Great review, but I would recommend the Wenger 16999 Giant Swiss Army Knife instead. You can make your own nails with it too. Check out the multiple ecstatic reviews at (H)ammazon ?
Yohan ·
Even snuck in an MC Hammer Easter egg. You are truly 2 legit 2 quit!
Doug Stephenson ·
The best yet Doc!!!!! I love your blogs and your comedic talents are very evident. Dr. Samuel Shem would be very proud. Thanks you for capping off a crappy Friday in the OR with a belly laugh! Smegma? Really?
Roger Cicala ·
Thank you, Doug! Shem was my role model for most of my life, of course. That’s the highest praise possible!
Anagram4wander ·
My – that was great !! I. Can’t. Breathe.!
Scott M ·
I am trying to order a set of left handed hammers. Will these be coming out at Hammerkina?
Great parody! Loled about six times.
Allen Walzem ·
That was embarrassingly accurate, and very clever and well done! Kudos for the writer.
DarkoNeko ·
well… hahahahahaha XD
alek ·
Awesome job as always Roger – great Friday night humor to read this.
But HEY, how much would it cost to RENT a Stiletto TB15SS titanium hammer?
Mandeno Moments ·
You have accurately captured the loss of perspective (puns too good to resist).
Danny ·
Who needs all these fancy titanium hammers and steel nails? Back when I started woodworking we just used mortise & tenon joint and dovetails. That’s what real carpenters did, and that’s what they still do.
Wanna D800! ·
Wicked, fabulous, insightful, brilliantly hilarious!
Jeremy Nicoll ·
I’ve been around construction workers for most of my life. They won’t bash on you for your tools (usually). They just bash on you for being you. 🙂
Ali ·
Can’t beat that Stiletto.
chad ·
I can’t remember the last time I laughed so much reading an article. This made my week! This is so true and so funny. Thanks so much for taking the time!
carioca ·
You’ve sure nailed this one, mate! And I was able to enjoy it just 24 hours after diagnosing a “Thor Complex” in myself after buying a U.S. drywall hammer for $A31 and adding it to my collection…
Well done!
DaHo ·
Nice!
But spelling and grammar are too good!
Olivier Day ·
A truly masterfully crafted article on photographers truthfully annoying if not endlessly time-wasting rants and debates. Pick what’s best for you.
Get out and shoot.
Thanks for this excellent laugh.
Adam ·
Hilarious stuff!
I Love the Maxwell’s Silver Hammer reference.
Kevin ·
I do not read photography forums, but I read a LOT of forums and this represents the spirit of so many of them.
Plus, this was funny as heck. I read it twice.
Mark Mullen ·
Superbly done, and so very true.
Ken Palmer ·
I couldn’t stop laughing after seeing the framing picture. He got a lot done in 2 hours! Your point is well illustrated with parody. Thanks for the laughs.
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Dicko ·
Great stuff, between this article and fake Chuck there is some sanity in a crazy world.
Robert ·
Best parody I’ve read in a long time. Thanks for the laugh.
Brad ·
Well done!
If you had chosen to do this with woodworkers hand planes then it wouldn’t have been much of a parody. Those people have a thing or two to teach photographers how to navel gaze WRT their gear.
Restored Stanley Bedrocks vs modern Lie-Nielsen equivalents. Japanese vs western tools. The merits of spending $5000.00 on a Holtey hand plane. Flow charts to determine the date range that your plane was made (that kidney shaped hole for the lever cap screw is worth much more than the key hole shape). Hours spent fine tuning the $500 tool you just bought just right.
A smattering of true masters turning out absolutely stunning furniture. Meanwhile the unwashed masses (including me) use these gorgeous, amazing tools to turn out foot stools and medicine cabinets while dreaming of greatness.
Sid Ceaser ·
Bravo, sir! Spot on!
DaleG ·
Thank You! I am still looking for the piece of my posterior anatomy I laughed off! I love how you worked in the Beetles reference!
Matt Sawyer ·
Pure genius. I laughed embarrassingly loud in this coffee shop. And Ken Rockbuster is such an appropriate name!
Matthew ·
Love it, especially the Beatles reference!
(Find via TOP.)
Roger K ·
Right on!! I mean “write on”! More.
Ed Verosky ·
Hilarious! And you know, while these hammer enthusiasts spend all their time in forums like this, I’m out there hammering stuff. And if I’m not hammering for money, I’m doing personal hammering projects to better my skills at nailing and pounding everything in sight!
Hornbugger ·
Mine is 12″.
sandwedge ·
You may want to upgrade to the hammer with the thin red line around the head. It’s obviously better quality, and you’ll get a lot more respect from the other carpenters.
Stevie Z ·
Hysterical! A photographer friend sent me the link to this, and the saddest part is that I gave up reading/commenting on audio recording gear blogs because they have the EXACT same arguments..
Well written!
Ellen Anon ·
Thank you for writing this – I love it! As an author of articles for a major photo forum , I can say that you have “hit the nail on the head” … Sorry for the pun but after roughly 140 such comments on one of my recent articles, it was wonderful to read this!
Declan ·
Hits the nail on the head!
timtodd ·
Haa! Hit the nail on the head !
Lex ·
LOL, “BigBanger” sounds like me.
Eeeksellent!
Tina Manley ·
I think this is a guy thing. Obviously women are more caring and it doesn’t matter to us what hammer is used. We just want to be sure that the nails are not mistreated. I may start an on-line support group for nails abused by the Stiletto TB15.
Tina
MikriMan ·
Well, you really nailed this one 🙂
Neil ·
Ken will show you dints he has removed and suggest he was using the rubber mallet when all the time he was using the TB15ss.
He gets a kick back from the rubber mallet manufactures for making you suckers believe he was using them.
Joe Kashi ·
You’ve evidently seen the target clearly and really pounded it into the ground.
This is a brilliant bit of satire that’s a square and fatal hit on the narrow-minded, rude stupidity of too many sites and threads. Thanks for what was obviously a time-consuming but worthwhile effort.
JAson ·
lmao smegma nails
oi ·
super post!!!
Aaron ·
Look, hammers are really important to some of us here. Would the gawkers leaving comments not directly related to the original poster’s question please just sod off so we can get back to discussing nails for the Stilletto.
Allen ·
That is all fine and good but the Stiletto TB15SS2 just came out and it is 1/2 the size, folds into a shirt pocket, and can drive 1000 more nails before wearing out. I have one on backorder from Amazon.
pedant ·
Let me know when Rule 34 kicks in on this hammer business.
David ·
I clicked through to the TB15ss on amazon – the reviews on that are worth a read too if you have time to spare… Like you said, Its not just photographers, its people.
kirk tuck ·
I’d like to spend a few years hammering for free. To get experience. Build up my hammering portfolio and get some exposure to clients who might eventually pay for hammering. Do you recommend residential or commerce construction companies? Hammers and nail want to be free.
Jerome taylor ·
Great stuff! But, yes, there are people that have serious opinions about hammers. I own over twenty of them (yes, they helped make me rich). My last favorite (yes, a stiletto) has too slick of a face and slides off the nail too often. Had to get a hammer from Australia to get the one I wanted. Hammers are like cameras. Nails, though, are like film – just use whatever is cheapest. (Ducks head.)
Andrew ·
Excellent satire!
For the real thing, see…
http://forums.finehomebuilding.com/breaktime/general-discussion/what-hammer-do-you-use
Jeff Biorn ·
LOL, go and read any biker site. LOL.
nevada5 ·
The Stiletto line has never been decent in low light. It’s fine if you do all your framing in good lighting. It’s good for a point-and-hit, that’s about all.
Vince P ·
Smegma? I wonder how old you have to be know what this means. I wouldn’t use a nail named smegma I’ll tell you that. A face cream, maybe.
Steven Runyan ·
Hammeforum has great potential. Let’s do breakfast.
Jeffrey Besos
Steven Runyan ·
sorry, in a hurry to type my name, of course it’s Bezos
Mike Hardisty ·
Absolutely loved it and I can easily identify the same type of people on many a camera website. Ken Rockwell…hilarious
bclaff ·
Can’t you even format your satire correctly?
You’re missing the tag and I get a syntax error when I get to
I mean, really; totally amateur.
Krishanu ·
This is the best satire I have read in a long time. If you were a full time writer, this would be counted as one of your all time best creations and be a required reading in all modern English literature courses…….
Matthew Saville ·
Way to drive home a solid point.
Leehman Wexlin ·
Have a hammer toe and this will help. Thanks for posting
Regards,
Hammered in Hartwell
Dmitriy ·
Awesome! Here in Russia, we have same discussions on our forums. 🙂 So it’s international as well.
video horst ·
i guess you nailed it. thx a lot for this
greetings from germany, where good nails are born.
Randell John ·
You ‘Hammered’ the point over extremely eloquently.
My eyes are streaming with tears.
DanP ·
Ha, ha – I really liked the handlers. My favourite was nailguru2….
syuaip ·
I miss my Stiletto D700.. It can do 8NPS in low light easily..
Christopher ·
I had hoped you would have covered the most recent release of Adobe Nail editor. Seems there are some features that might help Justgotmine tweak his nails, good workflow actions. While you have my attention, does the Stilleto come in a 5 axis nail stabilizer version? Also is the stabilizer in the handle or in the head?
Waiting with baited breath and a credit card….
Reagan Lamb ·
Well Done Best new Thread I have seen in a long time You should post this on FM
Reagan
Whoohoo ·
Use what works for you. http://www.straighttothebar.com/images/posts/080708_holdingnail.jpg
Sharpest ·
LOL – excellent.
Reading most of the so called photo forums I often thought of barber’s forums and quarrels over scissors and razors.
Unfortunately this satire will not put the last nail to the coffin of the Photonut pissing contests – pity.
Marshall Black ·
Wow, absolutely brilliant.
PS, aren’t nails and hammers what we used before super glue?
Dave Ballbanger ·
He said smegma!
Andy ·
How dare you confuse a hammer with a mallet. You sir are a hack.
David ·
Ken Rockbuster has a picture of himself on his website using a custom-made left-handed hammer.
eddie from aus ·
why dont you just buy a box of self nailing nails
salt ·
Some times I wonder if we human beings have always been this crazy or if it was just a recent phenomenon courtesy of the “current generation”.
Have we always been this nuts and that it’s only recently thanks to the Internet, that allows such ease of communication, that all the crazy comes out in full force in mad clashes of “lunatic vs lunatic”?
Or is it just the current reality TV watching Facebook generation?
It seems to me after around 2000, the world has been getting more and more divided and polarized.
Marco ·
I was gonna get a Stilleto TB15SS but the lens correction profile for Lightroom isn’t out yet and if you are a cooper, the barrel distortion is off the charts!
Joe ·
Who needs a hammer these days? When I have to drive a nail I just pound it with my telephone.
Clay ·
I can’t believe this article didn’t mention that all of the mailorder NYC stores that sell hammers are going to be closed for Passover! We’ll all have to wait until they re-open.!!!
Budi ·
Seriously funny. 🙂
You’re one talented guy, at your trade, hobby and humor.
I found myself drawn to your website more and more, despite the fact that I don’t rent or buy from you, yet. Very informative and entertaining.
Roland ·
I usually admire everyone who owns a gorgeous Teflon-coated frying pan that his steaks must be delicious.
Your article proves my point again, many thanks.
MrPixelPeeper ·
Wonderful!
siodre ·
When’s the Stilleto TB15SS Mk III coming out? I can’t see buying one now if the Mk II is coming out next year and the Mk III is coming out two years later. It’s practically obsolete already. I want a Mk III now.
Jim Colwell ·
Roger, you’re spending way too much time on FM. You know us too well! Jim
Whitefly Swater ·
Do they do a left handed one? and is there a Lynda.com tutorial available yet?
Miles Green ·
WAAA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!
*wipes tears*
That was hilarious!
You made my day, thanks!
…Ken Rockbuster… lol!
Andy ·
Going to save me hours, Every reply ready and waiting.
I’ll just cut and paste the approiate line in my threads.
Job done.
PhotonPeen ·
So my question is, would the Stiletto TB15 really be worth the upgrade price? How much do you folks think I could get for a clean, low whacktivation TB14 (non-N)? I would join the Pry & Sell here. Don’t want to mess with FleaBay or Claw’s List. I’m only a part time pro, but my clients pay me for the hammer I use, not the nails I drive (although the car I drive does get me chicks; would the TB15 get me more chicks?).
bluto ·
I suspect this arises as guys are evaluated primarily by what they can do and the need to be competent in action carries across into hobbies as well. Also, it’s very hard to separate the contribution of skill from tools (better tools almost always make it easier to achive better results though better tools are largely owned by people who also have more experience and skill in the field).
In photography this means that owners of entry level cameras and kit lenses are frequently posting either cat pictures or problem photos (out of focus, motion blur, poor exposure), while say full frame cameras and Zeiss lens owners have learned to select their best photos, post process them well, and are well exposed with few if any technical flaws. A new visitor is bound to attribute at least some of the difference to the tools, correctly or incorrectly; and following the near universal human desire to take a short cut, have a desire to own tools that made the obviously better photos.
Will ·
You nailed it!
Chris Wordsman ·
Ken Rockbuster! OMG I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard!
I love the 2 hour framing job picture too! Roger, you are hilarious and this is my favorite post so far. “Here’s some shots of nails I’ve driven. Do you guys think I have a good copy of the hammer?” ROFL!
Joe Carulli ·
I have a friend who has a nice hammer and he’ll do your house framing for free!
Mike Grace ·
Haha! I think it might be a while before I can stop laughing. Love it!
Andy K ·
@Roland – TEFLON? are you serious? Everybody know Tennessee-made cast iron is the absolute best. That is, if you are forced to compromise and use a pan. Over a bed of hardwood coals is the true way to do it.
Jim Austin ·
Roger~ Bloody funny, great read. You have a new fan here. !!
William K ·
Fantastic! Well done!
Mickey Kosanovich ·
I bought a $2,000 Ziss Super-Angle-On head to go with this hammer and I expect the results to be unbeatable by any mortal camera.
I’ll post some pictures when I have completed testing. Maybe 2014.
Roland S ·
Gonna wait for the Stiletto TB15 2. Supposedly being release in sept. according to HammerRumors.com.
James Hendrix ·
What really pisses me off is all the damn MWC showing up at the construction sites and willing to hammer for free, How is a professional able to compete?
And don’t even get me started on all the damn listings on Craigs List claiming they are PROFESSIONALS just because they can buy a cool hammer!
hihi ·
Look, guys. Clients don’t care about what type of hammer you are using. As long as it is big and shiny and you know how to swing it, you’ll be fine. Most of them will never put nearly enough stress on your joints to notice the difference anyways.
Bifurcator ·
You should use a Vaughn 27oz. with corrugated face for the example in place of the sledge. It’s truer and would make the thread more funny/realistic.
😀
K Crow ·
Maxwell @ SilverHammer.com is brilliant, but you’re dating yourself.
Roger Cicala ·
crowley@gordonmacquarrie.com wrote: Maxwell @ SilverHammer.com is brilliant, but you’re dating yourself.
I’m dated enough to not care about the date anymore. Assuming, of course, you meant ‘dating myself’ referring to my years, not my social life 🙂
Lori ·
If this blog post has helped you in any way, and if you haven’t already done so, please consider donating $5 to help support Roger’s growing family. This will allow him to keep these blog posts coming!
Christer M ·
Personally, I think the newer hammer models are ruining the craft. When it no longer requires any skill to frame a basic house, is there any real value in the final product?
Steev ·
That is such a great post, made even greater by the fact I think most of those people go to my camera club and have pretty much the same discussion every week.
Joe ·
Wow.. that was hilarious… good job.. i can see all the forums now… lol
Wes Craft ·
This is hilarious. Thank you.
wellfedCanuck ·
I’ve only got an ancient crop-hammer, a Rebeletto 350D… I use it mainly to put up picture hooks but people tell me that I’m really good and I was actually paid once to hang something on a wall. I REALLY want a Stiletto TB15!!! Do you think that starving my kids for a while or missing a couple mortgage payments would be overkill in order to take my hobby to the next level?
Neil M ·
Well now you are all missing the point. As Ken Rockbuster himself has pointed out there is only one true hammer and that is the M3 (Malleus III) the great manual hammer of the 1950’s made in Germany that uses REALnailsTM. Rumour has it that on 10th of May the latest in this long line of M hammers, the Malleus X (M10) is due to be announced. So I would hold off until the pre-production “first looks” are in. I simply know that once I have my M10 I will be instantly transformed into a master framer, it only my current hammer that is holding me back. Mind you rumour has it the Malleus XP will be in production soon after the Malleus X, you know the one that is identical to the X but has a shadow grey handle and, get this, without the logo on the front. Plus it will be much more expensive being a limited edition so it must be a better hammer mustn’t it? Then there will be the Malleus XI in 18 months time – oh dear.
John ·
Hey guys, my new (Pencannik 8×10) Hammer now comes with a Spade. This is great. I used to have to carry my Hammer and my Spade but now its all in one. To top it off, the spade functionality comes with 24spades per second with 1080Spade WideSpade and has Surround Sound.
The purists will hate the fact that a Hammer can now Spade, but this industry had to do something to survive.
HammerDude ·
What about a grey market Stilleto TB15SS? Is the warranty valid in the US or will I have to send it to Bangladesh for warranty service? I’m just wondering because you can save a lot buying mail order grey market.
DocDJ ·
Wonderful “comments”. While we all are interested in perfecting our skills, we do sometimes take our pet notions too seriously. In any field, the search for “the perfect tool” is never-ending and always frustrating.
Keep ’em coming.
Miki ·
MC
Hammeruser
I see what you did there…
Andrei ·
Who cares about the hammer model or carpenter skill anymore when micronail web sites can sell you nails already driven into every known wall and type of wood for $1 or less? Maybe only wedding and sports carpenters, I dunno…
backslash ·
Hahaha 🙂 You must have read the same forum 🙂 I recognize some sentences 🙂
William ·
It’s all nonsens! I always use a living Hammershark for all purposes.
It just rams in all you want with his tail. Simply turn the shark en it removes nails and whatever you further want with his teeth.
Rubal ·
Read this somewhere —
A photographer is invited for dinner and is showing off his work to the host.
The host: (admiring a photograph) Wow buddy, what a photograph! You must have a really good camera.
In a while, dinner is served. The photographer exclaims, Wow! what delicious food, you must have a really good stove.
Nathan ·
I guess when everyone upgrades to the TB15, I can get a used TB14 off eBay, but who cares about the quality of the hammer if you don’t have a good tool belt to carry it on??? and if you’re a destination carpenter, then you have to worry about whether the tool belt will fit in the overhead storage…
Yves ·
Hilarius ! Great work and entertaining. I can feel you’ve been browsing forums and caught the spirit. All characters are represented, as in real life.
As a EuroNailer, I am positive about nails and hammers being cheaper in the States.
Has anyone put his metal-aged hammer aside and tried one of these ancient prehistoric wooden clubs and stone nails ? Shurely a collectors item …
Yves ·
All I do is macro-hammering, and nothing does that better than the Stiletto TB14. The TB15 is just way too big and bulky and is perfect for my garden fence, not for thumbnails or thin needles. What’s the use of having even a 1 square foot face plate to crush a fly ?
Besides, the TB15 has no underwater casing, and rusts in no time. How can years of experience in hammering be so obviouly wasted is beyond my understanding. It’s time for the guys at Stiletto to wake up or die …
Jack-of-all ·
Really guys, the tool doesn’t matter. If you’re good enough you can drive nails with just about anything. I’ve done just fine using a dime store hammer, a 20 Lb sledge, a crowbar, a Crecent wrench, a C-clamp, a railway spike, and an iron pipe filled w lead shot. OK, you can’t use just anything- a 2×4 works fine for demo, but it just doesn’t cut it for driving nails unless you bolt a bit of 1/4″ steel to the face.
Mister Switzer ·
Hello from Switzerland,
the author ignores the fact that we guys in Switzerland make the best hammers, probably because they are a little more expensive.
But the original Swiss Army Hammer made by Hammorinox comes with a hammer head, a smaller second head, tweezers, toothpick, corkscrew, can opener, bottle opener, slotted/flat-head screwdriver(s), phillips-head screwdriver, nail file, scissors, saw (regular, wood), file, hook (parcel carrier, tightening aid for shoelaces, etc.), magnifying glass, ballpoint pen, fish scaler, hex wrench w/bits, pliers, keyring, USB flash drives, digital clock, digital altimeter, LED light, laser pointer, MP3 player, 4 mm hex screwdriver bit holder and bit case with 4 double-ended bits (8 ends). laser pointer, a 32 GB detachable flash drive, Bluetooth and a wide choice of weapons of mass distraction.
Before we started using them the alps were an elevated plain – we made the valleys to create a pleasant landscape for rich tourists, ruthless russian billionaires, tax refugees and exiled dictators.
Mike ·
Hammers are too blunt for my tastes. I like to rest a brick on top of the nail and allow gravity to slowly drive it through the wood. It produces a hole so silky smooth it has to be seen to be believed. A lot of the best carpenters are working this way.
But be warned: use a high quality brick. Some of the cheaper ones leech onto the nail head and leave behind a magenta color that is impossible to remove.
voipboada ·
Bonne soirée! Communication de décrire mon avoir un emploi est en réalité terminée , passez à retirer la mise en œuvre .
frelwa ·
I tried my Stiletto TB15SS on my cat, but the cat ducked, so the test was inconclusive.
Neil Buchan-Grant ·
I used to drive nails for a living back when a hammer was nothing more than a lump of poorly fashioned metal with a splintery stick coming out of one end!
In those days all you needed were a keen eye and a steady hand to get the job done to a professional standard. Nowadays its all just ‘young punks’ with their fancy automatic nail guns which require no skill or judgement on the part of the user at all!
It makes me sick, I used to turn up at a job and find some little idiot (who happened to be the foreman’s nephew!) packing the latest all-singing-dancing BOSTITCH N80CB-1 had done it for a third of the going rate! That’s all very well, but what happens when his batter packs in? You just can’t beat a good manual tool in the hands of an expert!
intrnst ·
Hey, Roger.
Check this out: http://bit.ly/HOgpPq
An odd diffraction behavior.
dumbasadoorknob ·
What happens to my nail when I use a crophammer; will it come out of the other end of the subject wood? Is it really closer when I hit it? Can I really stand farther away? Is a threepenny nail with a standard hammer better than a fivepenny nail with a crophammer? When will they make a hammer for four nails at once?
Should I wait before replacing my present standard hammer with a Japanese hammer that can nail in cuphooks?
TK ·
Chuck Westpale says the Cannon 1H Mark MCCLIV tops everything else in nails per second. Thom Hogun claims the Nailkon N 900 gives you a better hit rate, but I’m going with Westpale on this one.
HammerTime ·
What sort of hammer do you recommend for Glamour Hammering?
Roger Cicala ·
HammerTime – Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, of course.
MikeL ·
@Nailguru2: I’ve tried the Grip Rite galvanized zinc coated sinkers, and they work with all my hammers and are the sharpest sinkers I’ve ever held, straight out of the box. They are so sharp I think I’m going to sell all my hammers and buy an Stiletto TB15SS titanium. I’m thinking of accepting a few assignments, do you think the TB15SS would be good enough? I don’t have a good saw or tape, what accessories do you think would be valuable for an afternoon doghouse assignment?
LooseMarbles
Dave ·
This is a perfect parody of EXACTLY what happens in the camera forums!
Denise ·
Fabulous! Funniest thing I’ve read in ages!!! Thank you
Tom ·
“siodre says:
April 2, 2012 at 5:53 AM
When’s the Stilleto TB15SS Mk III coming out? I can’t see buying one now if the Mk II is coming out next year and the Mk III is coming out two years later. It’s practically obsolete already. I want a Mk III now.”
I’m waiting for the Mk iv as it will blow anything even thought of today. I know because I read about it on HammerRumors .com
mrod ·
The only time I have to work is at night after the kids go to bed and the night air amplifies the noise and wakes ’em up, which doesn’t make anyone happy. A friend said an artificial light source and a couple noise difusers and maybe a shaping tool would cut the noise by almost 80%, and I could probably mask the remaining 20% Ps (Post strike) by wrapping the handle in a beach towel. So, do I need a matching brand for the light? I have an old flashlight and was thinking of duct taping it to the top of the hammer and seeing if that would work. Any thoughts?
Rob Andrew ·
This is the most awesome thing I’ve ever read in my life.
Tom ·
Bah…you young guys are all wimps. Back when I was a boy, we made our own hammers out of rocks & sticks!!
JDT ·
Oops. I made the mistake at posting this on a certain camera group on flickr. People are already getting fired up.
Paul ·
I used my hammer at a wedding and now I have a rash. Is this normal?
M6X40MM ·
Personally I’ve never been convinced of the quality of joints made with a nail and prefer to use the SCREW format.
Up until now I’ve been using a Manchester ScrewDriver for nails but with the switch to Screws I need a new tool as its no longer supported for use with Adobe Walls. Would the Stanley 1-56-001 Anti-Vibe Lump Hammer be suitable for Screw Format?
Secondary question – does anyone know if this comes in a left-hand version?
Mark ·
While this parody is great and funny as all get out, I use to make my living swinging a hammer in several trades (framing, roofing, and drywall). Then as now and almost universally across tools, the market supported at least three grades of each tool. Cheap for the beginner/amateur, mid-grade for the hard core hobbyist, and Best for the professional. My step dad could never understand why I would spend $30 for a framing hammer when he used a “perfectly good” hammer for $3. The fact that he bent 4 out of 5 nails totally escaped him. A good tool is REQUIRED when you are making a living at it, but as always the discussions will get out of hand.
Bob ·
Love it LOL you’ve really hit the nail on the head…
Bob
Kevin Purcell ·
salt asks: “Some times I wonder if we human beings have always been this crazy or if it was just a recent phenomenon courtesy of the “current generation”.”
It’s a result, I suspect, of remote communication and interaction between semi-anonymous strangers. So of course it isn’t new!
The Victorians were at it in photography journals with barbed remarks being slung in their letters pages.
e.g. this May 1864 letter on curve-fronted cameras and confier photography … it reads like a better written modern forum entry (from almost 150 years ago!).
http://books.google.se/books?id=IDEFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false
I suspect it goes back to the origin of the post and letters exchanged by any enthusiasts published or kept by a society. But it probably blossomed with the Victorians.
For more info see this article where the above link originally appeared. The comments fill out some of the odd insults hurled (e.g. “you are a Tom Noddy”).
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/10/updates.html
Humbly yours, etc, etc
K. G. R. R. R. Purcell.
Seb ·
For any of you ignorants – you cannot use 4/3 inch nails on full frames.
Ron ·
Roger thanks for posting, You’ve given me some insight into make my images tack sharp, nailing more of my shots and getting a better handle on my images.
Sammy ·
Hey everybody! I’m an alternative hammerer. People in my group use frying pans, rocks, bricks, bottles are really tricky be careful. In fact, I once saw a guy on TV once who drove a nail with his bare hand… btw Hammeruser, what’s the IQ on that Stiletto? And for Justgotmine, You’re going to need MC’s Graintex SH 1660 to PP those studs. Jesayin’
Stephen ·
I’m pretty sure I’ve been apart of the conversation that this is picking fun at… 🙂
Mark O'Brien ·
I read in Popular Carpentry that Herb Cobbler reviewed 10 different hammers, and found that the Sears Craftsman’s $15 hammer was all you needed to be a professional.
Le Kilt ·
You might get 36 MP (metal pins) hammered per minute with the Stiletto TB15, but I work a lot in low light, and the SE 11” rock pick Mk III may only manage 22 MP per minute, but with it’s glowing tip and softer finish it makes less noise and never fails to nail it in very low light conditions.
You may need to update its hardwear grip with the firmwear 1.3 rubberised grip which solves the notorious “fly off and hit the neighbour in the head” problem.
Chris ·
I found my way here from AndroidForums.com. The OP here is dead on about how fanboy threads (and threads in general) go. This is awesome.
BTW does that come in left handed. I get really peeved trying to find left handed hammers.:D
hammertime ·
In soviet russia, nail hammers you!
Pete ·
LOL, yeah its human behaviour unfortunately… and its just like this and on steroids in the dive community. Thanks for the wonderful parody.
Thanassi ·
LMFAO at this article and Le Klit
GENIUS
Brad B ·
I found that keeping your thumb clear of the hammer as it strikes the nail really helps cut down on Purple Fringing
Flat Finger ·
My IK-on has a removable lens at the FRONT, and a auto-locate & Nail-Following engine.
Even if i TRY to hit my finger now, it misses!
Wish i had this one long ago.
Ohh, almost forgot, the lenses are: one-time-use-only type’s
so dont forget to order those to, they come in boxes of 1.000 pcs.
Jonathan Brady ·
Clark Kent drives nails with his fingers…
But seriously… HILARIOUS write-up!
Mike Hendren ·
You people are ALL wimps! They don’t call me “ThumbNailer” for nothing – I push nails in with my thumb. It allows very precise depth placement of any kind of nail! 🙂
@Roger This post is sheer genius … brilliant! You had me LOL all the way through!!!
pozophotography ·
Brilliant write-up! This is one of the best photography equipment essays I have read. While it may easily dismissed as a silly post on the surface, it is actually quite insightful and many of parody threads are dead on. Thanks for putting this together; I will share with my friends and colleagues.
MrJavelin ·
Enough about hammers, I already have a perfectly good kit with a framing hammer that I’m comfortable with and a finish hammer that I keep on my belt at all times just in case I need it.
Let’s talk about lighting. I’ve been using cheap work lights from one of the box stores but one of the guys I know that does really high end work told me that he only uses multiple remote lamps on stands to minimize shadows and really seperate the nail from the wood. That’s how he is able to get the most work done with the fewest wasted frames. What do you think? I’ve heard some of the newer work lights are really the bees knees.
born to hammer ·
I need your advice. I am not a professional Hammerer, but I have been hammering for years and have gotten really good. A neighbor of mine saw a sign that I posted on a tree about my missing cat. He told me that I did a great job of attaching the sign to the tree. He asked me how much would I charge to build him a a new house. How much do you think I should charge him to build his house? I will be doing this in my spare time and it should only take a year or two.
ps…I realize that I posted this in the professional hammerers forum. I am not trying to take your customers. My neighbor had no plans of hiring a pro. He said that his 6 year old niece has a brand new hammer and has volunteered to build the house for free in trade for being able to show the house to perspective customers.
BTW I am gonna be needing a tool belt too. What do you guys recommend? I don’t want to spend too much. But, it needs to be nice with plenty of room for extra nails. I saw a nice one over on the “makeyourowntoolbelt” website. It was made from a old cloth apron. I liked it a lot and the price was right. Have any of you made your own? If so, please post a photo for us all to make fun of your cheap ass.
Thx
richard ·
I’m confused….is the smegma nails more for fir and not pine or hemlock……are they that specialized… If so, why use them if the grip rite can handle all types of wood?. PLEASE HELP
RussellInCincinnati ·
But where are the good hammers really manufactured? Everyone knows that Thailand is the best place to get your nails done.
chris ·
I started out with a tack hammer my dad would lend me whenever I had the odd need to hammer… No bells and whistles at all, but solidly made. Eventually I decided I should get serious about this hammering thing (I kinda enjoyed it) and get my own gear. I’ve upgraded my gear twice along the way, and would dearly love that new TB15SS, but wow, that price! Too rich for me right now… I wish they had come out with 2 upgrades—say, one with the ultra-light-weight handle, and maybe one with a traditional handle, for those of us who don’t need that feather-weight feature.
I hammer more as a hobby or when the mood strikes me—not commercially or professionally—so I’m not getting paid to constantly change hammers. But friends and colleagues have told me I have a natural eye for a beautifully-hammered nail, and should consider going pro/commercial sometime.
So does anyone have any suggestions or resources for setting up an in-home hammering studio? What all do I need to consider? The self-marketing alone is totally daunting… Or perhaps should I try out the carpentry-fair show circuit first, get one of those little pop-up tents, and spend weekends driving to the shows, dislpaying a mix of 4×4’s, 2×10’s, and maybe a show-stopper 4’x8′ plywood sheet, showing my nailing prowess, hoping someone will want my hammering? Then again, would I still enjoy hammering as much as I do know, if I had to “make it my job” all the time? I just don’t know what to think about it all…!
Happy Hammering!
-CB “Drooling for the TB15SS”
Flintknapper ·
This is all sheer sillyness. If you’ll remember, Hansel Adams once said:
“Knowing everything about hammering that I know today, I could have hammered all of my nails with a rock picked randomly from a stream”.
Michel Sauret ·
so this is what we sound like to non-photographers…
I didn’t realize I knew so little about nails and hammers… with all the information I know about camera gear, I could be building a shed instead
Powerkey ·
Just got one of those cheap Helga hammers from Amazon for $3. I LOVE this thing. It bends the nails in such interesting ways. Sometimes it gouges the wood and once, I even saw sparks! It was way kewl!
All my friends think the framing is great. I think I’m gonna open my own shop and make a boatload a cash!
dok ·
jeez! you nailed it ! btw, love the pop culture references 🙂
gadgetgal488 ·
I only hammer nails at home as a hobby. I use a stilleto heel! it works just fine and when I’m done I can wear them for a night on the town.
Anita Bower ·
Wonderful satire! Had me laughing in public.
Carl C ·
it’s eery because it sounds so true! 😉 I think mankind have always been like this. If anyone read Kurt Vonnegut’s old novel “Player Piano” the ending is a bit like this (after man has destroyed the machines, man starts fixing them up and arguing about how to do it etc).
Nathan ·
You guys are wasting valuable time with all this spec talk. Just grab whatever you have and get out there and hammer!
Kerry Garrison ·
I just went out and bought a new hammer even though I have never used one before. Now I am going to quit my day job and be a professional carpenter in the next 30 days.
bumflux ·
I can’t wait for your review of tool belts!
Ifihadahammer... ·
I’m a complete noob, but want to get into a hobby that will stay with me for a lifetime. Therefore, I need some advice. I need a starter kit (hammer and nails), but am on a tight budget of just £300. I’m wondering if it would be wiser to get in with a new entry level set-up, or would I be better off looking at buying a used mid-range model. I see in the classifieds that there is a “lightly used” Stiletto TB15 for sale (hammer only). After doing a bit of research on this model, I’ve discovered that it is 36 MP (metal pins) hammered per minute. Would this be overkill on a newcomer like me? The seller doesn’t mention how many strikes the hammer has had, but I’m assuming that it’s good for at least 250,000 or so over its lifetime. Would this be correct? Is there anything that I should look out for when buying used? I have read that neglected/badly stored hammers could have fungus growth on the handles or even the dreaded dust spots on the shaft!!! I definitely don’t want one of those! Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I would appreciate any help.
Toolbox ·
Ok, it seems like I may be finally closer to a hammer decision after spending much time finally deciding between outright purchase, renting, and borrowing (yeah right, like which of us has the sort of friends that would actually loan us their hammer!?)
In any case, my question, or rather two – what toolbelt, and how do I explain my hammer purchase to my wife ?
Flat Finger ·
Becarefull Ifihadahanner!!!
Buying a used one will most propably bring you in some kind of troble.
As example: if… the wood was broken, they sometimes replace it by a cheap soft-rubber version.
Now, when you raise it, the top will swing around left/right, and will most time NOT go in the direction you wanted it.
You can ask your grandpa about such a kind of a problem.
I dont think you are waiting for such a problem?? wont you ?
Hammering Hank ·
The best hammer is the one you have with you. What good is the Stiletto back home in your tool belt when you unexpectedly come upon the opportunity to drive nails into mahogany? I always have my iPlane with me and despite the criticism of its low weight and small striking face I have sunk some wonderful nails with it. Had I restricted my hammering to my framing hammer I would have missed many opportunities to join exotic woods. Those of you who look down on the ability of the iPlane to drive nails are missing once in a lifetime opportunities for spontaneous joinery. Remember it is not the tool but hammerer who creates beautiful frames.
S.horton ·
You are lucky that the hammer fairy did not change all of the usernames and titles here. Yet.
Andrew ·
After reading the above I raced out to buy a case of the Grip Rite galvanized zinc coated sinkers.
Be careful, over half of each box had the head of the sinker on the wrong side. I ended up throwing away far too many to finish building my glassroom addition. I noticed in the picture above that the head was on the left side yet mine were mixed. I’m really upset with this product and calling the manufacturer first thing in the morning.
I think this taints the review of the Stiletto TB15SS as well. I can only wonder what side the pounding mechanism is on?
Vandit Kalia ·
Oh please. Only noobs argue about hammer and nails.
To really get the perfect stroke, you need the best support. Relying on on-hammer stabilization isn’t good enough – you need proper gloves for holding the hammer and getting the best stability.
Toctoc ·
Who will attend at NAH 2012 at Las Vegas?
benneh ·
Andrew, those Grip Rite sinkers you foolishly discarded were meant for the *other* side of the wall.
Pete Harper ·
Hi there, I’m more into screwing than hammering, I use a great big Stanley Fat Max screwdriver for my work.
I’m hearing that if I turn my screwdriver round the other way I can actually hammer in nails using the screwdriver handle. Now I know this isn’t EXACTLY what my screwdriver was designed to do but hey, it gets the nails in, right? Screws and nails are obviously different but still kinda the same principle – they hold two separate things together, right? – and seeing as I’m an expert screwer I should fairly easily be able to transfer my skills over to hammering. How hard can it be?
So are there any places I can just get hammering work? Only being new to it and because my screwdriver was only a fraction of the price of your hammer, I can totally do it for only $100 a day, I won’t be charging the same rates as you guys who have been hammering for YEARS, obviously, even if I can just about promise nearly the same results. Like I say, I’ve got all gear that will do the job so I guess I can just get whatever work that you hammerer guys could get, right?
Cannot WAIT for the next generation of Fat Max’s though – fatmaxrumours.com says they’re going to be fully integrating a proper hammer head into to the handle of the screwdriver. I’d be so so disappointed if they didn’t. Someone said they might be releasing their own line of hammers what you can ONLY hammer with, which will cost the same as these other hammers that you mention – that would be such a dumb idea and totally lose them sales, don’t you think? I mean, here I am about to get up what will be a successful hammering business using my trust screwdriver, I’ll want to upgrade to a hammer EVENTUALLY but I won’t be wanting to pay the proper price for the hammer because I’ve built my business around this low cost screwdriver. Come on, Stanley, get it right, huh?
Pecker Mark ·
I’m waiting on the certified left handed model, I have put in a request but have heard no reply as of yet..
Also there are no markings or instruction manuals , I’m tired of helpers that borrow my hammer asking ” Hey which way is up?? ”
These also really need to come with a detailed instruction manual
I still don’t know if I need to change heads for hot dipped 16D opposed to 16 brights.
Just sayin’…
DB ·
The OP failed to mention that the “E” model is scheduled for release later this year. It will have a leather wrapped handle similar to the one that Pete Sampras used in his last Grand Slam Tournament victory. The manufacturer claims that speeds are increased by 25% do to the ridges running concentrically around the handle. Both a left-handed and right-handed model will be available, but the left handed version will not be available until Spring of 2013. Handle sizes will come in 4 1/4″ through 4 7/8″. Rumors leaked from those who violated their NDAs suggest that this may be the best hammer ever made; allowing the user to spend more time with the family and less time actually on the job.
These “E” models will be available on line through Amazon, Ace Hardware, and Vinny’s in New Jersey.
Mathew ·
Bastards!
Mathew Dennison ·
My Nitton Coolhit has 12MP. It has an extendable nail upto 12x the initail size. I am not a pro like you guys. I am a casual hammerer who just likes to point and hit.
Flat Finger ·
Pfff… NOOBS….
not one of you have a UNDERWATER housing,
so dont even TRY to keep up with the pro’s 😛
willy ·
Quit being a hammer hog and let me rent it and no I don’t want to buy a slightly used one. I just need it for 2 days.
CheapHammer ·
You guys are spending WAY too much for your hammers. I buy perfectly good used hammers at garage sales just about every weekend. They may not be all “high-speed, low-drag” like your Stiletto hammers, but I didn’t pay $200+ for them either.
I can usually find good used hammers for about 15 cents per pound.
ProHammer17 ·
It’s really pathetic how some people think that buying a $200 hammer with their retirement money will turn them into carpenters, these are the same people who will happily claim: “I’ve always had an eye for hammering.” Anyone who takes one look at your ‘work’ can see you’re just a GWH (Guy with Hammer) who doesn’t care about carpentry and is actually just using his hammer as an excuse to get close to undressed wood. I miss the days when we had to do our hammering with 10 pound chunks of granite and apprentice in the dark cave of a Master Hammerer for years before we could claim to be photographers. Modern hammerers have no respect for the craft of carpentry.
Getting Pounded ·
Since the recent IPO of Stiletto.com I have been watching NASDAQ and am wondering will the price continue to rise? I am a first time investor and am worried that putting all my savings in the company might not have been the best move. With all the recent sales of the Stiletto TB15SS titanium hammers I would have thought the stock would skyrocket and I could afford to buy all the CF(Carbon Fiber) look wood I need and the left handed Model LS for hammering stainless wolf sinkers to build my retirement home even though I’m only 18. But the stock keeps dropping! Are the shorts putting the squeeze on the market? Does anyone have any thoughts on what is causing this? I am a bit pissed because this is the first seriously speculative investment I have made and Stiletto is angering me and now I am thinking that I will never buy another hammer again! The CEO sucks! The stock market sucks, The whole world sucks!
Dead Commie ·
I have a hammer that my dad took off of a Chinese general in ‘Nam. It says “Stanley 16oz.” The handle is cracked and the head is pretty rusty, but I would say it was in 95% condition over all. Can you tell me what it is worth?
Deep Thor Axe ·
This sounds like fun …. I mean who doesn’t like to get hammered on a regular basis. Not to speak of daily nailing with some really hard wood (with or without the use of performance enhancing pharmaceuticals). Good exercise too I would imagine, pounding away and breaking a good sweat. I understand that there is room for a lot of self improvement, perfecting the ultimate technique and thrust. You pros are fortunate to have the benefit of ‘on the job’ training!
Never mind the stiletto, any old hammer will do …. as long as I can grab the tool, get some wood and start pounding whenever the desire strikes and relieve the pent-up stresses of the day. Even if it means having to answer to the neighbours for the late night rukus, it would be worth it.
What satisfaction
Short handle ·
While the TB15SS is all the rage and seems the business, I’m still not convinved that a change to the Stiletto brand is on the cards for me. The way the hammer sits in my hand just doesn’t feel right, and the whole way it works is just so confusing to me. Who do they employ to work out the ergonomics on their hammers anyway? Some kind of masochist?
I think I’d stay with my Gilbert K44 for now. I know it’s a great performer, and I can hammer with the best of ’em
Sledger ·
Is there a place I can rent this hammer to try before I buy?
Karl Riek ·
Well done, Roger, well done!
ChickWithHammer ·
Hi! I just upgraded to a “SE 5-in-1 Dual Interchangeable Head Hammer”. Quite a step up and a bit more complicated than my IIT 88400 pink claw hammer.
I have built and sold a couple of fruit boxes that I made with my claw hammer, and my friends and family really think that I have talent! My best friend would like me to build their summer house in Topeka. I would really like to give that a try. I have watched a lot of Amish folk building, and was an assistant for a friend that had a big house to build. I handed him nails and made lunch and stuff.
So, I think it’s time to go at it on my own. How much should I charge for building a house? What nails and other tools do you think I will need? Should I start with the second floor and work my way down? I know that a house is an important thing, so I hope I can build something that they will like!
De Feats Drill ·
Hi. i just sold the family car. So I have a fair amount to spend. But I couldn’t decide until I saw your review. Thanks soo much! I was going to wait until HAM, but I’m definitely going for the Stiletto now. I have to hang a calendar in the kitchen so the timing is perfect!
I’ll post a video of the video of the unpacking when it comes.
BangMaster2000 ·
OK, so I’ve been pretty psyched about this new stiletto, but I feel none of the comparison tests are really fair. After all, the Stiletto has a 1/3 inch head while its closest competitor, the undisputed SmackDown 22, has a full 1 inch head. Driving nails with a head that large requires no skill whatsoever.. Amateur town…
Furthermore, the Stiletto is a full 2oz lighter and the handle is a full 2″ shorter. And it is $100 cheaper…
It simply wouldn’t be a fair comparison at all.
So, to make it a truly fair comparison, here’s what I’ve done:
Took the Smackdown, got an angle grinder and reduced the head to 1/3 inch. Cut off 2″ from the grip and cut off material from the shaft until it matched the weight of the Stiletto exactly. And then I burned a $100 bill.
Guess what?!!? The performance is I D E N T I C A L !!!!!
Just proves that none of this new fancy stiletto tech cr@p can keep up with my old skool Smackdown 22.
So even though I said the Smackdown was for amateurs, after this test I’m now saying if you don’t use it, youre a bent nail. ok?
n00bs….
Ghost Hunter ·
I recently started a ghost hunting business and was wondering if any of you could tell me if this was a good hammer for bashing aggressive spirits that may try to attack me.
It seems like the titanium would be right for that application. But I am worried that it may effect the ion movement and dispel non-aggressive entities before my buddy can snap a photo with his GigaPixel IR dslr with night vision lens (he says a guy at something called WPPI told him this was the best camera for ghost photography)
Anyway, I am supposed to go to this old house tomorrow and could really use some advice
MikeSoja ·
The hammer was fine, until I needed to call customer service, which is the worst in the industry. After weeks on hold, I was passed to a different department, where they didn’t even know what I was talking about. What a runaround. I will never buy another Stiletto, again.
Bob ·
Making fun of your customers is not a great business move. I’ll rather spend more and support my local businesses who are grateful for the business than a bitter man who hates what he does.
Roger Cicala ·
“Bob”, didn’t you get smacked down enough posting this all over Flickr? I’m certain the Houston rental shops are grateful for your decision, but our customers actually enjoy a little humor.
Marty ·
So are you saying with this new hammer, I can go building a shed in the dark using the 2.0 nail size and not miss? Ordering Stiletto now! Bye bye not getting nailed
Phew, I was worried that I would mess up sometimes!
COUNT ME IN!
Enjoyed this Roger!
TheInconvenientRuth ·
Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, but I really can’t help wondering…
Which 35mm (D)SLR camera (APS-Whahtever..) woul be the most efficient tool to drive in a nail?
Having just purchased a Nikon D4 and D800, Eos 5D MkIII and pre-ordered an Eos 1Dx, I’m teerribly afraid I may have not ordered the one most suitable for driving in nails.
Am I wrong? I still use my F3T with MD4… I feel so… dirty…
A good friend said it would be the Contax RTS III but I don’t have any lenses for that so the balance would be all wrong?!
My dad gave me a Kiev 60TTL for my bitrthday in 19xx, but I only use that for marble scultping, really… Hits a chisle like a MoFo…
Any Pros here who can help me out?
Fabio Bernardino ·
Hammerkina was great !
Will it be this year or next ?
🙂
C. Thomas Hammer ·
Don’t get me wrong, the Stillettos are a nice brand. The fit and finish is wonderful and they’re clearly based on the famous Miller Falls 23 Tack Hammer, although sized up 17.8%.
The problem I see with the design is Titanium. It’s too light. If you’re a working man framing the outside of a 3 story home, using your standard 27 foot Type VI wood composite dual sliding ladder, you’re already a bit off balance.
Couple that with wind shear as low as 7.4 mph and your chances of face deflection increases by 3.1%! Now your productivity is in the low 96s at best and you’ve already got to add a union hammerer to your crew to meet the date that %^&*!$* architect agreed to.
We at HAMmer have designed the ultimate nail driving tool. Basing all of our designs on classic Miller Falls tack hammers from the golden age of hammering (1946-1953), we’ve come up with the HAMmer.
Material tests, 3D modeling and rendering have taken 46.9 man years alone. But, it’s been a labor of love.
Utilizing materials from the heartland of America and modern technology we’ve created a perfect reproduction of the classic Miller Falls line in a game changing material.
The material is triple Kryo hardened and has an initial Rockwell Superficial 45N rating of 77.6 (equivalent to a Brale value of 86.6!). The facial deflection has been shown to decrease by 4.2%. You’ll be working at over 100% productivity!
The initial Kryo slump forms are hand hewn in geo-thermically ideal assembly labs made in Germany to perfectly match the facial facets on the head and even the tiny imperfections in the wood handle “grain” of the Miller Falls line.
You get the look and feel of the Legend, but with a 23.8% increase in initial mass. Try to match that, Stilletto!
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Big Banger ·
I’ve got a Stanley that I bought at Home Depot for only $29.95. When I put it in my pickup, I’m an instant profeshunal carpenter. Oh, I have a skilsaw too.
Clive Copeman ·
I’ve been using my android phone to bang in nails for the last year and none of my clients have known the difference. Don’t be fooled into thinking an iphone is the only one you can do this with.
Screwu ·
I can’t believe I’m reading this. Since 2008 I’ve been using the fastscrew system. It is quicker lighter and stronger. If you are thinking it is too expensive think again. I can use half the amount of fastenings compared to the old method and in a third of the time. A battery lasts a whole day (I’ve gone for 12 hours on a single charge) The big plus is no more carpal tunnel trauma. Once you’ve tried it you’ll never go back.
Uhit ·
…sorry, I don’t want to disturb,
but this really screws me up…
You simply missed the whole point of connecting!
I have done a whole lot of seismic measurements to get a idea,
why one should nail and not screw – especially if it’s about connecting wood.
A single precise impulse – like with a (good) hammer –
enabling the wood to respond with it’s own resonance frequency,
opens the way for the TRUE connection!
If one is using a fastscrew system that constantly forces the wood to vibrate in this unnatural frequency, one is only getting a stack of dead wood, but not a arche. Period!
…that is why there is the old saying:
“knock on wood”
…and NOT “screw on wood”!
HammerNoob ·
So, I got my new Stiletto TB15SS and I have to say it really looks awesome. I saw that there was a firmware upgrade available. I connected it to my computer but now it’s just sitting there. Is it OK to disconnect it? I wouldn’t want to “brick” it.
While I haven’t been able to use it yet, I thought I’d share my impressions of this awesome hammer.
Pros:
– Nice light weight, Titanium, duh!
– Much lighter than Graintex from what I’ve read.
– Well balanced, could swing this baby all day long.
– Stainless steel face – should never discolor!
Cons:
– None, it’s awesome!
Am thinking of getting a second one so I’ll have a spare in the tool bag in the event that I run into any trouble with this one.
niels ·
Roger, when will you have these in stock for rental? I’d really like to rent and try out before I commit to one hammer or another.
niels.
erika ·
Sorry – I’m in the wrong forum. I was looking for a place to get hammered.
NeedToGetOutMore ·
Preordered my Stiletto from Amazon and it finally arrived yesterday, weeks after everyone else got their hands on theirs 🙁
Anyways tested it as I always do hitting nails with the toolbag on. Very disappointing!! Nails all over the place. Geez, don’t these guys test hammers before putting them out there??? Anyone else with this problem?
SlapHam ·
“Roger Cicala” why oh why did your dad not pull out? Didn’t he know he could have more fun and hammer more often by doing that :/
ELF ·
I really need a tool that will handle everything I work on, from 1/6″ tacks about the diameter of a sewing pin in a 1:60 scale balsa dollhouse to 8″ spikes through 500-lb redwood timbers in custom-built homes and everything in between. I don’t want to have to lug around multiple hammers. Can anyone recommend something that’s truly versatile in that way? Maybe one with interchangeable heads in a reasonable range of shapes and weights?
tdf ·
anybody know anything about that new hammer company called TINTO? they are taking deposits on some new space age hammer that will pound 4 nails at once… I think they are on kickstarter….
what about advice for a set of gloves? Ive been using a pair of unmatched canvas leather things made in the ukraine but i don’t know if they are right for the kind of hammering i do, specialized work mostly in Truss’s and some roofing
Mako ·
You guys aren’t going to believe this, but there is this guy who made a fortuned selling SUNGLASSES. He now thinks he can revolutionize the Tool Biz with his new low cost BLOW Hammer. Supposedly what makes it worth going with something untried nor tested is that it will be UPGRADEABLE, forever!!! Now THAT Does sound like a winning idea! Just imagine, four years after buying my BLOW One, I will be able to upgrade, for a modest amount supposedly, to the latest digital striker. I’m only worried that I’m going to end up having to spend a lot above and beyond for accessories, that I’ll need to actually use it! Does this sound to good to be true? I think that german company is going to tank soon … they haven’t come out with anything new in months!
Looper ·
Hey, Mako! Can you get them in RED?
Mako ·
“I will be able to upgrade, for a modest amount supposedly, to the latest digital striker. ”
The joke being that the RED ONE camera has reached the end of it’s upgradeability, after only four years, as opposed to fourEVER.
ZenHammerKurasawa ·
A real carpenter does not use metal fasteners. My revered teacher, ZenFramerOzawa, considered metal tool trefe, i.e., like pork dung. He taught to dissassemble plane after every stroke, sharpen wooden blade and re-set. Then take another shaving, etc. You get the picture. Even his chisel blades were made of wood!
To watch ZenHammerKurasawa was pure joy. When he was framing house he was like Mohammed Ali; i.e. he fload like butterfly, stink like bee!
Only way to connect two pieces of wood is with wood.
Now, move this damn discussion to the chat room, not ProTools!
ScrewHammer ·
Don’t forget that the hammer is fully forward compatible with the new screw technology. My old framing hammer drives screws far better than a fancy new screw driver drives nails.
Frank ·
Love the closing line!
Boom Boom!
scott ·
LMAO…
Philip Hinkle ·
Awesome post Ron. Those that annihilated you are the very problem in both the photo can video industry. It’s not about the tools it’s about the person using the tool. A great photog can take a T2i with an 18-55 kit lens and out shoot Aunt Jane with a 5DMKIII and a 24-70 2.0L lens. A great videographer can take a consumer cam or even a Flip type cam and outshoot Uncle Joe with an EX1 because they understand how to shoot great video. It’s just like the Mac/PC debate over editing systems. I love to debate with Mac people cause I’m a PC users but it still boils down to the editor behind the tool and not the system or the software. Randy Stubbs of the event video world used to create award winning projects on $100 consumer software with a basic prosumer level camera because he knew what he was going.
Those people that took you to task just did it cause they are the ones that feel they need the bells and whistles to be better. It’s all a “size matters” game to them. Don’t let them get to you. You are smarter than that.
I’m a DSLR shooter now and my whole rig consists of a few GH2s, a SteddiePod, my Cineglasses (ie…reading glasses) and a few Lumix fast primes. I can shoot great footage with those tools and not look like the Terminator….oh and I use AutoFocus too on the new Lumix lenses cause it works and I can be more productive when the situation is right. Being a Pro isn’t about doing everything with the most expensive gear in all Manual mode….it’s about knowing when the tools at your disposal can be used most efficiently.
Joe G | fotosiamo ·
An awesome article Roger! I shoot fashion and commercial photography, but with a Panasonic GH2 mu4/3 camera and I have gotten great reviews of my work despite it not being shot with a Canon or Nikon. You can see my work at http://www.fotosiamo.com
I also write for http://www.SLRLounge.com, and I linked this article on our page because it is a real good read for every photographer out there:
http://www.slrlounge.com/remember-a-camera-is-just-a-tool-right
Thanks Roger!
– Joe Gunawan | http://www.fotosiamo.com
Roger Cicala ·
Thank you, Joe. I like your illustration better than mine. Wish I had thought of that!
Roger
swoiwode ·
LOL at the last line. And, overall too true. Thanks, Scott
Yves Choquette ·
And the wooden hammer? Where’s the wooden hammer for the nostalgic weirdos?
Uhit ·
Hammering is a no brainer…
…if it weren’t so, one would get serious headache!
–
Everybody knows, that the real nostalgic weirdos use their head for… err…
…their work.
…and remember, there is a big difference between wood and wood –
same with hammer head.
–
As always:
Nail what You want with the tool that fits the best,
but don’t moan about the outcome if it is a no brainer…
…tools for fools – knock on wood!
TechSupport ·
@dumbasadoorknob
“What happens to my nail when I use a crophammer; will it come out of the other end of the subject wood? Is it really closer when I hit it? Can I really stand farther away?”
There’s definitely a bigger chance for the nail to go through the whole wall with the crophammer, as the Depth Of Fit is bigger. Standing farther away from the wall should alleviate that, you are correct. It is perfect though for very thick walls.
Melker ·
I prefer to drive my nails in with the Nikon F or the Canon F1. The F4 have to soft rubber covering the body to be a good hammer…oh wait I´ll guess I mixed my hobbys. How do you push a sledgehammer two steps 😉
M
Melker ·
Tecsupport: Woldn´t you need good working light to be able to drive the nails all the way trough the wall with a crop hammer? A full hammer would do the job in less light and you would´t need blocking earmuffs due to lesser noise.
Hammerparty ·
i wonder what operating system to use with my new TB15SS
Brian ·
Operating system? Well, certainly not Windows I should think….. 🙂
geornejoype ·
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Toftinite ·
dellllllll 🙂
aneciglover ·
every day i smoke ecigarette
boggyhammer ·
As no one else has mentioned it I should raise the use of man made uneven round headed nails that one over-hammered give a nice soft ‘bokeh’ effect to the framing…
David Evans ·
I find the brass base plate of a Leica M9 really shows its class as it is applied to a good old solid titanium nail. This requires much more skill than a hammer because, obviously, you can only see 2/3 of the nail when checking through the viewfinder.
canl? tv ·
thanks for this post. goods it. i like…
John Young ·
One problem I see with the Stiletto is the fact that there are only a handful of nails out there capable of taking full advantage of the pixel size/density of the new Titanium. No zoom nails currently made will stand up, so that leaves us with fixed-length nails.
Since this is a full-frame hammer, if you want to cover all framing needs, you will have to carry 15mm, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 105mm, 200mm, and either 300mm or 400mm nails. Most of us aren’t strong enough to carry all these nails. Yet, if you are going to walk around with gaps in your nail lengths, why invest in a full-frame Titanium hammer to begin with?
I know there are some legends like Henri Carpenter-Person that got by with a full frame hammer and 50mm nails, but most of us aren’t up to his standard. Other legends used much heavier equipment altogether… walking in the footsteps of Anvil Adams.
Granted, if you are like me and primarily frame sporting arenas, there is still no better option than a trusty fast 70-200 zoom nail, but results might be less optimal than you expect. I built over 50 frames using a Stiletto and my 70-200 zoom nails and blew them up to 1,000%. I tested hammering anywhere from 2.8 times with short quick strokes to freeze the frame all the way up to 11 and even 16 times with long slow strokes for better depth of nail.
When I blew up the frames and looked at the nail heads, those hammered 2.8 times only showed Titanium level accuracy in the center 1/3 of the nail head. The outer edges of the nail head could have been hit with a rock. Optimal quality seemed to be in the 4-5.6 hits range. Anything above 5.6 hits began to show deterioration of the nail head due to deflection.
Using my best fixed length nail, the quality was indeed superb. In fact, I can honestly say I’ve never seen anything like it. Of interest, I noted a slight degree of focus shift with this nail which required me to aim just a fraction above the nail head. Getting these results required near perfect technique, though… which few framers possess.
and FINALLY… don’t forget about the TRIPOD!!!
We all know that for any kind of framing other than sports arenas, it is impossible to hand-hit a nail as well as you can hit it using a tripod. But when you hit a nail using a Titanium hammer on a tripod, it’s vibration city!!! This means you will have no choice but to fork out the money for the top-of-the-line carbon fiber tripod from Hit-mo.
All-in-all, I’m not sure I’m ready to take the plunge just yet. Besides… one of the best pieces of advice I ever received was by on old framer who told me “Always Invest in nails, not hammers”.
Ben ·
Amazing. Simply hilarious.
My roommate is giving me funny looks because I keep bursting out laughing.
😀
Dannie Hilario ·
Haha right….
Phil ·
Well said. And I agree. A camera, like a gun, is just a tool.
Yves ·
Until Stiletto comes out with their new face plate that hits nails but avoids fingers, I won’t buy one. On top of that, the laser device which points the nails is useless : too powerful and melts the nails before you even hit it…
Ha! Driving nails is driving me nuts
Brian MacDougall ·
Classic…especially “Hammerkina.”
Michael Everhart ·
You really hit the nail on the head!
Nosaj ·
I didn’t even realise what it was originally supposed to be parodying. The story just rings so true in so many different areas of the internet. 😛
Arturo V Ramos ·
will be waitng for your comparison/s between D4 fps and your TB15 nps (nails per second) performance.
….see yah at ” HAMMERKINA 2013″
Carroll Stewart ·
I can’t remember how many times I have pulled a nail out of my apron, with the point on the wrong end. Before I even have my CanNikca Boron Hammer out of it’s Huitoper life-time guaranteed holster, the 8976.4 MP sensor on my CanNikca,(with AlienNail wireless safety warning signal software,Version 345B), alerted me and saved a smashed thumb each and every time, pretty much..
My apologies for going off-topic, I just felt the TB15 had just been beaten to death.
Terrence Butz ·
Having recently been assigned to new market development for Maybelline, it has come to my attention that many thousands of carpenters across the country are not aware of the benefits of using our extensive line of colorful nail polish products. Maybelline Nail Polish can be applied to everything from simple box nails to heavy construction spikes. Our nail polish makes it possible to easily drive large railroad spikes with a five ounce finish hammer. By using bright colors such as Pink Shock or Fuschia Fever, your local building inspector will have an easier job determining if your construction project meets code nailing requirements. We understand that the half-ounce bottles of nail polish sold to fashion conscious women at cosmetic counters would not go very far when polishing nails for a new housing development. With proper identification, carpenters will be able to purchase our full line of fashion colors in 55 gallon barrels. Please contact your Maybelline representative for samples and to set up a delivery schedule.
Terrence Butz
Maybelline, Inc.
Lee H. ·
LOL – I’d missed this from last year, but extremely funny. Thanks Roger!
Mike N ·
Where are the blue Lithuanian hammers? The red ones are fake.
T.L. Lang ·
You hit the nail on the head.
Ebll ·
I’ll just keep waiting for a FF hammer (full faced)haha
Cet ·
This was the best part of it:
“Banger: I had to try 4 boxes of Smegma nails to get just one that was sharp.”
Damn, that reminded me so much on my 4 Simgas 30/1.4 DC EX HSM
Mulder ·
with a proper sledgehammer you can use up to 2 stops less force than with a crophammer. if you use IS (Stiletto calls it VC) you can even lower your aiming time by up to 3 stops and still get straight nails into the wood, even viewed at 100%. With Stiletto I like that they built VC into the handle, that safes alot of dosh on nails b/c you can buy unstabilized nails, damn marketing strategists. oh, and never get he third party lens, you get what you pay for. just my 2 cents 😉
Nancy ·
“Banger: I had to try 4 boxes of Smegma nails to get just one that was sharp.”
Well, even my mom told me to never touch Smegma nails but to look out for canoncised Milah-nails only. It’s a much healthier and cleaner banging.
Robin ·
All this is exactly what’s wrong with the world today. Nails make it easy. I started with wooden pegs when I was mere nipper and have never seen the need to embrace all this newfangled nonsense with nails. The best wooden pegs come from Gottingen although the Soviets stole the best designs at the end of the war and made some pretty good copies.
BMFjackHammer ·
Hammeruser, you’re either a Stiletto Fanboy “Tool” … or a Stiletto Shill. M.C. hit the nail on the head. The Stiletto TB15SS is over-priced junk that couldn’t drive a thumb tack into a cork board! I haven’t actually tried one but, from what I’ve read (and I’ve read A Lot!), I don’t care to. If you did ABX tests I bet you couldn’t tell a TB15SS from a Fischer-Price.
Anyone with two-penny common sense knows that Hammer-World.org is “The Most Trusted Name for Pounders.” Hammer-World recently reviewed the entire Stilleto line and gave the TB15SS their WORST rating: “TWO Smashed Thumbs Down.”
IMHO, I don’t get why hammer heads are so quick to jump on the FOTM and buy into all the hammer hype. I am Done with this thread!
Ron Weissman ·
I don’t attend Hammerkina or CES (Construction Equipment Show) because I don’t use mass market, ‘big box’ tools. I focus on building artistic sets for theatrical and Hollywood productions and thus have need of specialized Medium Format strikers, such as those like Scandinavia’s FaceOne, where the striking plane can be replaced by one of several special purpose front elements from Mama Mia, Anvil, HassleWood and Contact!, based on the type of nail and the type of wood involved, density, plane of confusion and diameter of impact metrics.
Nevertheless, I have learned that the rumor site, HAR (Hammer, Anvil Rumor) has just published a highly speculative note on a so-called Z-Striker coming from Japan, where the hammer striking plane automatically senses and then calculates the right distance and force to hammer a nail, including old fashioned nails. This supposedly allows formerly manual hammers to operate with automated precision. This rumored Z-Striker has not even been confirmed, but has already led to dozens of forum postings and overheated debates and proclamations that established tool vendors are kaput.
Let’s get real! Why spend so much silly time reacting to hints of suggestions of gossip about theoretically possible designs–but completely unverified– that may or may not hit markets sometime in the distant future–or not. What’s next? Debates about validity of as yet unknown H2O measurement results for an unconfirmed tool with zero known operating characteristics?
Pat Cree ·
I am an audiophile as well as a photo junkie and both hobbies have those who suffer from “upgradeitis”. My advice is:-
Buy the best item for your budget, when you need it, and don’t replace it until it breaks, or technology revolutions have really made it obsolete (for example film to digital cameras).
Ansel Adams took astonishing photos in the wilderness of Yosemite with a huge glass plate camera. The camera and magazine of ten plates must have weighed 25 kg. If he had an exposure meter, it was quite primitive. On a day trip, he could take only ten shots, unlike our modern digital cameras, which allow hundreds of attempts.
His output and that of similar geniuses should remind us all that the photographer, not the equipment, makes a great image.
A note to audiophiles: Once you have something quite good, listen to the music, but if you haven’t got a good sub-woofer buy a one now! I have 40 year old vinyl records which reveal deep bass I never knew was there until I bought one.
Even if you have the latest Stiletto TB15SS, you can’t beat a good 4lb sledgehammer for those inconvenient walls you may need to knock down someday!
Gordon Cooper ·
I note that you entirely ignored the flint, bone, horn, copper, brass and bronze hammer using crowd. Makita still makes accessories for most of these products, even if you have to do some filing to use the carbon fiber adapter handles.
The new Stiletto 5000 will not drive nails made before Spring of 2013. Even if you ignore that, the plutonium powered handle warmer option for the Arctic is still so buggy that it melts 20% of the nails it comes in contact with. Stiletto claims that is a desirable feature, but I am not so sure that the fact it glows in the dark will help me increase productivity. It was nice of them to include the free bottle of Rogaine in the Gucci bag that the hammer kit came in.
exeter carpenters ·
how to calculate angles in carpentry work?
DSPounder ·
All this talk about nail sharpness makes no sense at all!
If you actually investigate the physics you will find that while it’s true that a sharp nail slips easily between the fibers of wood, it just as easily will slip right out again. So, if you don’t want to have to go around every three months pounding all the nails in your deck back in, you will make sure to get *dull* nails. I have even gone so far as to purposely blunt the tips of my nails by hitting them all on the wrong end with a hammer before driving them. Then, when driven into wood, instead of slipping between the wood fibers, they break them. The broken fiber ends then grip the nails holding them in-place *much better* than sharp nails.
Rich Owen ·
What a hoot! And oh so true!!!
Euri Pinhollow ·
>this forum doesn’t discuss point and shoots.
My sides!
Euri Pinhollow ·
>this forum doesn’t discuss point and shoots.
My sides!
obican ·
Oh, is the comment section gone?
Roger Cicala ·
Unfortunately when we migrated to Discus, all the comments were lost. I hate it, because they were hysterical.
Michael Clark ·
You can still see the comments at:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/lens-rentals/my_third_grader_analogy_for_lens_reviews_and_testing/oldest/
rowquino ·
You can still see them using the wayback machine (an archive of old versions of web pages)!
obican ·
Did you come from Reddit? 🙂
rowquino ·
Yes hahaha
obican ·
Did you come from Reddit? :)
Jan Steinman ·
Here they are: http://web.archive.org/web/...
Be patient. It can take a while to load.
Justin Hellings ·
This is what happens when professional hammerers try to handle commentering themselves. They think that just because sinking nails is a technical job that this translates to skill in every other technical task. Next time you want to change your comment system, consult a professional commenterer. Anyone who has a solid understanding of commentering will preserve your valuable portfolio. I dread to ask you about your bitwise fifo cascading acyclic analysis in case you tell me you left it to your screwer mate.
Here’s a link that lets visitors see a few hundred of the old comments: http://web.archive.org/web/20120413183419/http://www.lensrentals.com:80/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com
Here’s a link to instructions on how to import WordPress comments into Disqus: https://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/466255-importing-comments-from-wordpress
Roger Cicala ·
Thank you, Justin! I thought they were gone forever.
Justin Hellings ·
You’re very welcome. I didn’t feel I could keep them to myself after I spent half an hour laughing at them 🙂
Justin Hellings ·
You're very welcome. I didn't feel I could keep them to myself after I spent half an hour laughing at them :)
Justin Hellings ·
This is what happens when professional hammerers try to handle commentering themselves. They think that just because sinking nails is a technical job that this translates to skill in every other technical task. Next time you want to change your comment system, consult a professional commenterer. Anyone who has a solid understanding of commentering will preserve your valuable portfolio. I dread to ask you about your bitwise fifo cascading acyclic analysis in case you tell me you left it to your screwer mate.
Here's a link that lets visitors see a few hundred of the old comments: http://web.archive.org/web/...
Here's a link to instructions on how to import Wordpress comments into Disqus: https://help.disqus.com/cus...
TurtleCat ·
Amazing how relevant this old post is every year as new brand wars erupt…
Allen_Wentz ·
Well done!
Nikkor300f4VR ·
Hammer Bokeh, jaaa!!!
obican ·
Been 6 years and I still lose it at “amazing microcontact” every single time. Great work, really.
obican ·
Been 6 years and I still lose it at "amazing microcontact" every single time. Great work, really.
pixeljammer ·
Very well done. Pitch-perfect. Thanks.
barmalini ·
2019 – microcontact is still the king
barmalini ·
2019 - microcontact is still the king
SFOG 7 ·
Hahaha! This is so good.? The “microcontact” was brilliant! Every online forum I’ve belonged to in the past 20 years has been like this; just replace the hammers with another hobby.
There are billions of human beings, but seemingly just a few personality types. Year after year, I’ve consistently seen the same exact ones represented in online forums, even my own personality! God bless you all!??
? John 3:16 ?
SFOG 7 ·
Hahaha! This is so good.😆 The "microcontact" was brilliant! Every online forum I've belonged to in the past 20 years has been like this; just replace the hammers with another hobby.
There are billions of human beings, but seemingly just a few personality types. Year after year, I've consistently seen the same exact ones represented in online forums, even my own personality! God bless you all!😁👍
😇 John 3:16 🙏
Franck Mée ·
Lord, I can’t believe I had missed that.
Time for an anecdote then:
my father, as a carpenter, did nail quite a lot of nails in his working days. He had a carpenter’s hammer (sorry I don’t remember the model, looked a bit like a Stanley Steelmaster 1-51-037 but with an aluminum-colored head), obviously, that he’d bought after careful consideration. Yet, he found the center of gravity was a bit close to the grip and the impact was a little light for bigger, 210mm spiral nails.
So he…
Removed the rubber grip.
Heated some lead.
Poured the lead into the hollow aluminum handle, so it would flow and fill the head side of the handle, just half an inch deep maybe.
Waited until everything cooled down and the lead was hard again, then put the rubber grip back on.
He’s been retired for almost 20 years but last I heard, he was still using that same hammer whenever he had to nail something in the house.
That’s still the thing I’ve seen in real life that’s the closest to the legendary “you know, I got this AE-1 in 1984, and I bought that accessory and this one and then I glued this piece here so it really fits my hand, and I never want to use another camera ever again” that we see on every thread of every forum yet never meet anywhere in the field.
And it was literally about a hammer.
Franck Mée ·
Lord, I can't believe I had missed that.
Time for an anecdote then:
my father, as a carpenter, did nail quite a lot of nails in his working days. He had a carpenter's hammer (sorry I don't remember the model, looked a bit like a Stanley Steelmaster 1-51-037 but with an aluminum-colored head), obviously, that he'd bought after careful consideration. Yet, he found the center of gravity was a bit close to the grip and the impact was a little light for bigger, 210mm spiral nails.
So he…
Removed the rubber grip.
Heated some lead.
Poured the lead into the hollow aluminum handle, so it would flow and fill the head side of the handle, just half an inch deep maybe.
Waited until everything cooled down and the lead was hard again, then put the rubber grip back on.
He's been retired for almost 20 years but last I heard, he was still using that same hammer whenever he had to nail something in the house.
That's still the thing I've seen in real life that's the closest to the legendary "you know, I got this AE-1 in 1984, and I bought that accessory and this one and then I glued this piece here so it really fits my hand, and I never want to use another camera ever again" that we see on every thread of every forum yet never meet anywhere in the field.
And it was literally about a hammer.
Beau ·
Internet gold.
Beau ·
Internet gold. \
Stephen Poole ·
Very well done – I salute you sir!
Stephen Poole ·
Very well done - I salute you sir!