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Things You Didn’t Want to Know About Zoom Lenses

Published February 10, 2017

The intersection (perhaps collision is a better word) of art and science is interesting. The scientist says “your impression is not as important as my facts.” The artists say “my impression is all that matters.” Imaging is that way. The photographer or videographer getting the look he wants from a piece of equipment is all that really matters; it’s the ultimate bottom line. So I completely understand when the artist tells me that all testing in the world doesn’t influence his choice of equipment at all. I accept when he or she says a lens is perfect for them. That’s the bottom line.

While I defer to the person taking the shots when they tell me what equipment works for them, I still don’t believe that general ignorance and disinformation is a good thing. With that in mind I’m going to address something I see repeated online all the damn time that just sets my scientific teeth on edge: This zoom is just as good as a prime. (And its corollary, I want a great copy of this zoom.)

To do this, we’re going to do science, which means I have to show you my testing methods and what they mean. (If we weren’t going to do science, I’d just say this one rates 82.7 and this one 79.2 using our special rating system you can’t understand, and the article could be really short like our editors want. Editors hate me pretty much).

It’s going to start with some MTF graphs, which I know a lot of people don’t understand and don’t want to learn, but that part will be mercifully brief, and then there will be pictures. So hang in there for a screen or two. To help make it easier, I’m also going to use our new experimental subliminal text feature to give you subconscious encouragement – you won’t even notice you’re getting positive messages to your subconscious, you’ll just have a feeling of well-being and accomplishment.

Here Comes the Sciencey Stuff, But Without Any Math, so It Isn’t Bad

You can handle this, I promise. 

OK, most of you have seen MTF charts. Even if you don’t understand them, you’ve got a general idea that higher is better. And you probably compared one lens to another on at least that basis. The MTF charts you’re used to seeing, show the average of a lot of different lenses (if Zeiss, Leica, or I made them), or a computer generated best-case scenario (if anyone else made them). They show what half of the lens should perform like from the center (left side) to the edge of the image (right side).

If I show the MTF graphs for two different lenses, like this, you’d be able to conclude that the one on the left has better resolution than the one on the right. You could actually find lots of other things if you speak MTF, but I won’t push it. We’ll stick with higher is sharper for this.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2016

 

But that’s either an idealized computer generation or the average of lots of lenses. What if we actually test one single copy of the lens? Well the first thing you’d notice is now we show both sides of the lens; the center is now in the center instead of on the left side. The second thing you’d notice is one side is a bit different than the other. Because when you manufacture something, it’s never perfect. So here’s an MTF of one of the lenses that went into the average above on the left.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2016

 

The left side is a little different than the right side, isn’t it? But wait, if one side is different than the other, what about top-to-bottom? Or corner-to-corner? So if we really want to test a lens, we have to do it several times, rotating it, so we test the different quadrants. So here’s that same lens, tested at four rotations.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2016

Hang on; we’re almost done with this part. Not much longer. You can do it!!

That’s four rotations. I could show you 8 and 12 rotations, but the charts would be really small, and you’re already really bored. You’re probably thinking “can’t you just tell me it’s a 79.2/100 instead of all this?”

So how about instead of that we just make a picture showing you how the MTFs map out around the surface of the lens. Below is a map of the sagittal MTF with blue showing where the lens is sharpest, yellow a bit less sharp, and red (there isn’t any here) not very sharp.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2017

That’s a lot more intuitive, isn’t it? You can see this lens is well centered (highest MTF in the middle) and just a tiny bit softer on the right side than the left. I’ll show you later, but you would not notice that tiny bit of softer on an at-home test. The MTF bench is more sensitive than any camera (so far).

We can also look at maps for other things. Below, for example, is the astigmatism map of the same lens.

Look at the lovely colors. You feel relaxed and at peace. The MTFey stuff is over now. 

You can see there’s a bit more astigmatism at the far edge on the right with this lens. My point in all this is that the maps are an easy way to evaluate a single copy of a lens at a glance. I’m going to show you a bunch of these pictures, so I wanted you to know how we got them.

So Can We Really See This in a Photo

Well, I did say that the bench is more sensitive than your camera. Subtle differences the bench may see are going to be masked by the other variables a photo has – lighting, focus, framing, and on-and-on. But big differences are going to be obvious. How big? Well, let’s look at maps for two copies of a lens, one of which is excellent, one of which is not. (It’s actually not awful, the only failing area on this lens is the red part at the bottom.) If you shot with it, you’d probably say it was an OK lens, or maybe a little soft. If you shot with the other one, you would say it was special.

(The map for this lens appears cut-off compared to the one above. That’s just because this lens has a built-in baffle to reduce light reflection, so its image is kind of rectangular, like a sensor, rather than round like the one above.)

Olaf Optical Testing, 2017

 

I know you like pretty photographs to make comparisons on, but a scenic shot has too many variables, and we’re trying to be all scientific. So you’ll have to make do with test chart photographs.

First let’s compare the top center area, which was excellent on the right lens and OK on the left one. To fit 100% crops in this God-forsaken blog platform, I’ll have to put them on top of each other, so the right lens is on top, the left on the bottom. These are unsharpened from RAW images of our high-resolution test charts taken with a 36-megapixel camera. The difference would be a bit more impressive at higher resolution, a bit less at a lower resolution, but this is sufficient for our purposes.

Lensrentals.com, 2017

 

I can see a difference; I suspect you can too. Remember test charts are more sensitive than a photograph. If I reshot this as a jpg with in-camera sharpening the difference would be smaller. If you took actual pictures of things instead of lines, you would probably notice a slight difference if you compared the two lenses side-by-side. But if you just had bought the left-hand lens you probably wouldn’t be screaming the top is soft, especially after you did some post processing and posted it as an 800-pixel jpg online.

Now let’s look at the bottom left quadrant. Again, the right lens is on top and the left on the bottom.

Lensrentals.com, 2016

 

The difference is greater now. You probably can notice that this lower corner probably isn’t OK. The tangential test lines (the ones going top left to bottom right) are really gray-on-gray, and so detail is being lost. OK, enough of this. My only point is that the MTF maps we’re using do reflect real-world images.

So What? Are We Getting to the Part About Zooms Yet?

Almost, my patient friends. And this won’t take long to show you now that we’ve gotten the concepts out of the way.

A lot of people are aware that while a zoom can be as sharp as a prime in the center of the image, it rarely is in the corners.

Few people, though, think about that fact that zooms are far more complex than primes. Where a prime usually has 6 to 12 elements, zooms often have around 20. And while primes have a single group moving to focus, zooms have moving focusing, zoom elements moving (sometimes several zoom elements), and possibly a compensating element. Increased complexity causes increased variability.

So let’s take a look at MTF Maps for a group of good prime lenses. Here are 9 actual lenses, tested just like the ones we showed you above. I’ll go ahead and tell you (because someone will notice) these are f/2.8 primes; no f/1.4 prime could resolve 30 line pairs this well. I’ll also add that one of these lenses had been dropped on rental but ‘suffered no apparent damage.’ Want to guess which one?

Blue is the soothing color of razor sharp images. 

Olaf Optical Testing, 2016

 

You probably guessed that the center lens on the right looks bad on a test chart (it does when compared to the others). If you look carefully, you can see the lower left lens has an area that’s a tiny bit soft, and you could notice that if you looked closely enough. The others all perform identically; the small differences we see on the bench aren’t apparent even on the highest resolution test charts.

If you ask me to pick you out a really good copy from this set of lenses, I will send you any of the three diagonal from top left to lower right. (Just so we get it out of the way, if you wonder what it costs for me to test 9 lenses and pick you out the best one then you can’t afford it.) But if I sent you one of the other three with no yellow in them, I’m confident you could not tell the difference in photographs.

Here Are the Zooms

Now let’s look at maps for several copies of a good, $2,000 zoom lens. You probably have already guessed that a good zoom is going to be more variable than the good prime. You probably tried to avoid thinking about the fact that we also have to look at several focal lengths. Everyone likes to think ‘good copy — bad copy’ like they would with a prime, but it doesn’t exactly work out that way with a zoom.

So here’s a set of eight 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms tested the same way, but with each one tested at three focal lengths.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2016

I told you in the title that you didn’t want to know. But it will be OK. Breathe.  

First, let me assure you this isn’t peculiar to this particular lens, to this zoom range, or anything else. We’ve tested thousands of zoom lenses. This is how they are with very few exceptions. Some are sharper overall. Some have a tendency to do better at one end or the other. Good performance of a copy at one focal length doesn’t particularly predict good performance at a different focal length. I will add, though, that terrible at one focal length does predict really bad at others.

Remember, this is an optical bench, and it makes small differences seem big. As you remember from before, the yellowy-green areas will look a bit soft on the test chart, but won’t scream at you in a real photo. Red areas might scream at you, though. I’m comfortable that most of you who looked carefully would notice that #7 at 70mm is not as good on one side as the other. Still, the red areas we see above are at an edge or side and might never be noticed by a sports shooter or portrait photographer who usually centers the subject.

The point here is a good copy of a typical zoom will be a little tilted this way at one focal length, maybe a tiny bit decentered at another, then tilted a different way at the other end. Or some variation on the theme. If you look carefully, you’ll notice it.

For example, if you had both #6 and #4 and compared them side by side; there’s no doubt you’d like #6 better at 200mm. But if you just got #4 you’d probably say it was okay. The owner of #6 is going to say the lens is clearly sharper at 200mm than at 70mm, the owner of #4 would that it’s actually a little sharper at 70mm. The people who own #1 and #8 would get online and tell both of those folks that they were obviously bad photographers because the lens seems about the same throughout the zoom range. The owner of #8 would probably be happy with his copy unless he went out shooting with the owner of #1.

Before you get too analytical about all this, remember this is just the sagittal graph. We’d also look at the tangential graphs (or the astigmatism graph which would show us the difference between sagittal and tangential). For example, looking just at the maps above, #3 looks like one of the better copies at 200mm, but if you look at its astigmatism graph, it’s one of the worst at that focal length.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2017

Don’t get me wrong. Zooms don’t suck. They’re excellent and very practical lenses. If you knew all the compromises that go into making one, you’d be as amazed as I am that they can make them that good for those prices. Let me add that if forum warriors posted 800 or 1200 pixel-wide images online, you’d probably barely be able to tell the difference between the primes and zooms, much less the differences between the zooms.

My point simply is that zooms vary more than primes in general, and a given copy of a zoom will vary at different focal lengths. The laws of physics and manufacturing tolerances told us it would be this way. Put more variables into a lens, and the lens varies more. Can they still be very good? Absolutely. Can they be as good as the best primes? Nope. On the other hand, the best primes don’t zoom worth a damn. Horses for courses.

So What Does It Mean?

There are no stupid questions. But there are stupid comments on forums. I will try not to make those. 

For practical photography not much really, other than just to make you more aware of reality. Here are the few takeaway messages for photographers:

  1. A great zoom is not as good as a good prime at comparable apertures, but it’s plenty good, especially in the center of the image.
  2. Zooms have more variation, and most copies of a given zoom will vary at different focal lengths. If someone asks me for the best copy of a zoom, my first response would always be ‘at which focal length?’ In this case, the sharpest copy at 200mm is not the sharpest at 70mm.

But for measurebating, there is a very pertinent point that needs to be made: Measurebating zooms is a fool’s errand. These differences may not be huge in your photographs, but they are very significant on a test. The reviewer who got lens #6 is going to have different conclusions and present you with different numbers than the reviewer who tested #1 or #8.

Some reviewer somewhere tested a single copy of a zoom lens and gave it their highest rating ever. Some people actually argued online about that, and then asked my opinion about that argument. So I wrote this post to explain why I thought it was all meaningless. When someone compresses something as complex as the multi-focal length performance of a zoom lens into a single number after testing a single copy, I don’t really care if their number is 3.1415926, 2.718281828 or 1.61803398; it doesn’t have any scientific value at all. Unless the rating is 42. Then it would have a meaning.

That was really funny. You should laugh now. And eat Avocados. 

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

Lensrentals.com

February, 2017

 

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • Terry

    I get the main point of the testing, but is the main point always true? For example, I have the Nikon 200-500, which is a pretty good zoom and I have an older 400 f2.8. Might the newer zoom beat the older prime lens or even beat a less expensive prime lens. Probably not at all focal lengths, but is that a generally correct or incorrect statement?

  • Madhav Bodas

    Very informative and enlightening article. However, its depressing to note that the purchase of a lens is like relying on ‘luck’ for the qualitative aspects of it. Also, that despite automation and precision manufacturing, performance of optical gadgets is not repeatable.
    It also means that if per chance you get hold of good lens, just hang on to it and never part with it !

  • Sid Phadnis

    Roger, does your fleet have *any* lenses that are rated 42? If yes, who is the manufacturer? 🙂

  • john boothe

    Thank you both for your incredibly thorough replies. In many cases when taking photographs, I do a kind of focus stack in order to compensate for field curvature/skew, and stitch together the sharpest sections. Some lenses appear to have a ‘soft side’ or corner, but they actually sharpen up if you focus differently, so it’s more a case of just a skewed focal plane. Others never get sharp in certain areas. Great to get some insight from you on the issue of field curvature/flatness – it’s something that seems to get glossed over and not recognised in most lens reviews, even though it’s clearly evident in published test shots.

  • It’s a very good lens. I don’t have any data on it since our first set of tests.

  • I think there are several things going on. First, they can’t eliminate variation at any price, so complexity will always cause some variation. Second, testing standards are still used that were developed for film and 16 megapixel cameras. According to those standards, these lenses would look fine. They’re only recently starting to change them. Finally, very few people seem to notice. Most folks buy a lens and go ‘well it’s a little softer here, or there’ but that’s probably how they are, and many people don’t use the full zoom range. I’m not sure it’s true, but someone once did an image search for one of the 70-200 zooms and found 65% of all images were taken at 200mm.

  • Tim

    No, I was trying to be a little more subtle.

  • Chirag Parikh

    which is the lens with least variation in your tests, the Tamron 45mm f/1.8 VC ? or there’s any other lens even better than that ?

    Thanks

  • geographer ix

    Thanks for this article. I didn’t give this issue much thought so far. What I don’t understand though is how these variations within one lens can occur. You tested eight 2000 $ lenses, so they could as well be Canons 70-200 f2.8 II (which everybody seem to praise to the skies). Can’t the manufactures do anything to minimize these variations within one lens-line? I always thought the production process of these lenses are so sophisticated that noticeable variations in optical quality would be the exception rather than the rule.
    Also this article should be shown to all these wannbe-experts on youtube.

  • Brandon Dube

    There’s less mass when the optics are tiny, making them less susceptible to misalignment from handling.

  • Page Williamson

    Roger, thanks. Not the answer I was hoping for but “you da man” with the data.

  • Van, they have an effect in that they sometimes break, but not much more frequently than aperture assemblies or AF motors. Just one more thing.

  • Page, they look about like this. Most zooms do.

  • 0mega

    I’m sure that would be tremendously useful. Thanks for the input. I hope you guys create that service soon, imho the market is bigger than you think. Lots of enthusiasts who buy stuff they don’t really need 🙂

  • Impulse_Vigil

    Very interesting… I wonder how susceptible to bumps all that precision is, considering how much more a phone is knocked around (than an ILC lens) on average… I imagine that depends as much on how the module is mounted as the module itself tho.

  • Page Williamson

    what would the charts for a 24-70mm Zeiss zoom for the Sony a7RII look like? Have you done mid range zooms?

  • Brandon Dube

    Such a website requires a lot of software we don’t have. The people who write our software have their hands full with another very large project at the moment. It is possible that we may offer a “semi-open” data access service in the future. (for a fee, you can add access to x number of lenses to your account per month or some other pricing model)

  • Richard

    Thank’s so much Roger for sharing all those data and your insights. Really interesting.

  • 0mega

    Well I would certainly be thankful for scientific results to the lenses I use… Which produce consistently sharp images center to corner even wide open. In fact I sold some of my primes because the zooms are spectacular, imho.

    As a deep believer in the scientific method though, more testing would be appreciated. I guess it’s not worth it for you guys due to small target audience, right?

  • Not just them, but several places that give a single ‘number rating’ to a lens. I understand why they do it — it generates tons of online argument that gets their name repeated over and over. I’m really trying to get people to ignore that and look at their actual testing results which are quite good and useful. I said elsewhere I don’t think the people who actually work at those places would buy a lens on the basis of that number any more than I would. But unfortunately people are treating it like it is the meaning of photography life and ‘upgrading’ from a 76.9 to an 81.4 without any real idea of that those numbers mean. Just that they’re numbers, so they must be real.

  • Van Forsman

    Been waiting for this one for a while now! Thank you Roger and Aaron! Would you happen to know, or consider seeing how VR/IS/etc. systems affect the complexity and fragility of a lens?

  • Brandon Dube

    We = Olaf Optical Testing.

    I use it to extrapolate because we’ve done very few first-party M4/3 or APS-C lenses. Voigtlander’s MFT lenses are very good, but so are their M mount lenses so that is pretty expected.

    This $1600 prime is not that difficult a design, optically – I would assume more complex lenses will be as bad or worse.

  • 0mega

    Who is ‘we’, what lens is it and why can its properties be extrapolated to other lenses?

  • Sebastián Santos

    The “number” controversy is beacuse of DxO score system?? I hate the simplification they do to the products they test into a big number (which in a lot of cases can’t be trusted).
    By the way, great article!

  • Brandon Dube

    A certain $1600 fast aperture M4/3 prime is the least consistent lens we have ever measured.

  • 0mega

    What is that supposed to mean?

  • Van Forsman

    I would love a discussion about how MTF or some other measure is related to other lens rendering qualities!

  • Joshua Efron

    Great article Roger! Thank you.

  • Brandon Dube

    You say that, but if some very high end M4/3 are anything to go by it wouldn’t be pretty.

  • Paul Lackey

    You meant, pi, right?

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