Equipment

Taking Apart the Canon EOS R5 Mirrorless Camera

Published September 8, 2020

Let’s get one thing out of the way in the first sentence. If you’re here to understand the mysteries of thermal flow in the Canon R5 I can tell you everything I know without doing a teardown: It’s small, it’s weather-sealed, and photo-body cameras have limited ability to get heat out of the camera.

I am NOT a thermal engineer. I believe that it’s better to know nothing than to know what ain’t so. Today, I will take it apart, comment on what I see, show you some fun pictures.

I always speculate some, but I’ll try to be clear about ‘this is what I know’ and ‘this is what I speculate.’ For example, two years ago, we tore down the first EOS R. I showed that there was a big empty space in the camera, about the size of an IBIS unit. That was what I knew. Then I speculated that Canon would NOT put IBIS in their mirrorless cameras because they were so into lens IS.

I am just giving you an example of how much trust to put in my speculations. Or anyone else’s for that matter.

So Let’s Take Stuff Apart!

The camera looks pretty much like the other Canon cameras with the battery door off. That’s the connector for the WFT-R10 wireless transmitter, which is cool: It functions as a 2-battery grip plus provides ethernet as well as wireless connectivity, connecting up to 10 cameras to a server. This is not something I’m interested in myself; the onboard wireless is all I ever need. It seems a cool, albeit expensive, option for high-powered professional-type people.

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The battery door itself gives us our first pleasant surprise. In every camera, the battery door is a weak area for leakage. There’s usually some weather-resistant gaskets around the edge, which the Canon R5 has. In addition, the entire flat surface is soft gasket material in addition to the raised gaskets around the edges and hinge area.

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The viewfinder rubber comes off next, Canon attaches theirs with a couple of screws rather than a clamp.

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Next, of course, comes The Removal of the Grips.

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The key to taking off the grips, for those of you doing your own disassembly at home, is to keep as much of the double-sided tape on the grip as you can, which makes it easier to reapply. The grip material surface feels slightly different than earlier models to the touch, but it’s about the same thickness and flexibility.

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The cover to the remote control sensor is basically held on by the grip.

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And there’s a metal plate covering the area of the card door hinge.

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It seems to provide some reinforcing strength, but mostly a smooth surface for the grip rubber to stick to.

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Now we have access to most of the screws and can start body disassembly.

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The bottom plate comes off next.

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The inside of the bottom plates shows us a new thing! We’re used to seeing a bead of rubber felt between the plastic pieces of the body to seal for the weather. Canon now has a soft rubber gasket along the mating edge of the pieces. This is much larger and provides a greater seal area than what we usually see. It seems to be attached to the body (in the old days, I would have said ‘vulcanized’) rather than being glued on.

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The same material is used around the openings where the plate seals around other parts. Here they’ve completed the seal for the battery door hinge from the inside.

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The metal tripod plate is sturdy and the actual tripod mount replaceable; both of these are things we consider important.

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The I/O side comes off next, and again we see that big rubber lip sealing the entire piece. Also, note that both the HDMI and digital out ports are part of the main PCB, so secure your cables; tugging these ports loose will be an expensive main PCB replacement.

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Another close up of the sealing gaskets from the side door. When we took these pieces apart, you feel the suction when they disengage. That’s not something we’ve seen in other cameras. The thing about weather sealing is it only takes one weak place to leak, but this sealing seems to be a step up from anything we’ve seen before.

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While there are gaskets around the I/O ports, with any port unless the covers are closed, you lose weather-resistant integrity.

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Under the card door, there is a thick foam similar to that on the battery door.

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And there’s that big rubber gasket where the door plates fit with the rest of the camera.

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OK, enough with weather sealing. You know weather sealing is outside my circle of trust, but I might put this within the rhomboid of reduced suspicion. I write off too many cameras from water damage every year to really trust weather sealing. This is good, but weather sealing isn’t about where it is good; it’s about where it can leak.

The next step is to take out the diopter adjustment screw.

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And then the back assembly comes right off.

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The back has more dials than the original R, but the LCD wiring appears identical; nothing much to see here. Except for the new, coppery colored flex they’re using on the LCD side, but not the switch side. I don’t know why the new flex material, but it is pretty.

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As you can see above, a Canon tech made his ink marks when this part passed inspection. Aaron decided to leave his mark of approval, too.

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Now we can look into the camera and see the back of the circuit boards. This is immensely more intense and dense circuitry than we saw in the R. First of all, there’s a green sub-board that appears to be about DC power conversion. You can see some hefty wires entering it from the battery compartment. The larger, square chips are TPH8R903NL voltage converters. Over to the left on the black board, the large white chip is a Canon WiFi chip with what looks like an antenna plugging in just above it.

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I am NOT an electronics expert, but I do know DC-DC conversion boards have to generate waste heat. How much depends on load, but I’m told 10%-20% of wattage isn’t unusual.

The viewfinder comes out next.

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I’ll indulge in my flex fetish and show you a closeup of ‘the argyle flex’. We actually decorate our office with large printed macros of pretty flexes and circuit boards. Yes, I know I need some counseling.

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Anyway, with the viewfinder out, the top assembly comes off. Not much different, other than the number of buttons and dials, from the other R top assemblies. Except they’ve put all the connections between the top and motherboard in a single flex; usually, there are several. There is also, compared to the main part of the camera body, a bit of air up here.

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The weather sealing is different around the top assembly compared to the rest of the camera. Where we had those hermetically rubber seals along the bottom and sides, we don’t see them on the top. On the top assembly, there is the traditional ‘top plate sticks out over the body plate’ thing.

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With the standard foam sealing strips over some of the body plates. So we have the regular overhang and foam sealing on top that gives rain protection, but the bottom, the part you might set in a puddle, is tightly sealed. It makes sense unless we missed a leaking point on the bottom.

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There’s not much sealing material over the lens mount area, though, so if there’s a weak point in weather sealing, I guess this would be it.

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TOTAL SPECULATION: Maybe the looser sealing at the top, where heat rises, helps heat get out. The chassis is not a huge heat sink, and it’s wrapped in insulating rubber grip material. It radiates heat, of course, you can feel it, but that’s not an uber-efficient way to get rid of heat.

Now we turn our attention back to the main body. That accessory board comes off easily. It’s a single surface board; the backside is smooth.

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And a single view for those who do chip quests.

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There’s an aluminum heat sink or electronic shield beneath that board.

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Electronic shields tend to be quite thin, but this is a manly piece of aluminum, 0.98mm thick. I speculate it’s more about heat than electronics. Notice I said ‘speculate’.

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The aluminum shield connects to copper tracings at the top and bottom (and the bottom tracing connects to the metal base plate), plus it sits above the two thermal pads, so I’m feeling pretty comfortable that this transfers some heat.

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Peeling back the heat transfer pad shows the four SKHynix SDRAM chips we’ve already been told are there surrounding the main CPU.

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We took off the tripod plate next (note, we had to take off that top heat sink before the tripod plate, so they are indeed connected). Notice the tripod socket is screwed, not soldered, to the plate, so it’s easy to replace.

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Now we can get a glimpse of the stabilizer/image sensor arrangement. There’s not much air down in there, particularly if you compare it to the original R.

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As long as we’re looking around the edges, I should show you the battery door switch, since people have been having a grand old time stuffing things in there to make the camera think its door is staying shut. This is a small, frail switch soldered directly to the motherboard and only held on by the solder. I have it on very good authority (my own) that it’s easy to dislodge the switch from the circuit board with just a little bit of torque, requiring a complete mainboard replacement, which is very pricey.

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Having completed our camera body tour, we took out the main PCB.

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There’s another big aluminum heat sink on the underside. This one has a layer of electronic insulating tape over the sensor.

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Removing this shows another thermal pad underneath the CPU. So it seems Canon is sending the heat from the SDRAM chips to one sink, and from the CPU to another. To some degree. (Get it? Degree?)

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Both card slots are part of the main PCB, but we can remove the ejection mechanism for the CFExpress card, getting a look inside. Here you go; a picture of the inside. You can see why we think CFExpress is a lot sturdier than the long, bendable pins of old CF card slots.

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Going back to the camera, we get to see the back of the sensor / IBIS assembly and the huge flexes leaving there, as well as the shutter mechanism between the sensor and the battery compartment.

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The sensor assembly is held in by three screws. As you can probably see, Canon has changed to shimming the sensor for flatness (in the R they used spring tension screws). Spring tension screws can theoretically be more accurate (depending on how accurately they measure), but I assume the vibration of an IBIS unit could loosen them over time; every IBIS camera we’ve opened uses shims.

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The sensor / IBIS unit comes out as a single piece.

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The shimming for this one was 0.45mm, 0.45mm, and 0.24mm, so a pretty significant tilt compensation was made. And no, that’s not unusual for any camera.

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The only thing really left in the chassis is the shutter assembly, which is held in place by screws and posts.

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These we don’t take apart, but then neither does the service center these days. Nobody’s got time to line up all the gearing, plus if you mess with it, you have to have factory software to recalibrate the timing.

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With the shutter out, the chassis really has nothing left inside but the lens mount, battery case, and a few connection traces. You know something I’ve found interesting in all the jumping-to-conclusions about heat inside the Canon R5? Not one person has tested the heat conductivity of the chassis. (Spoiler alert: it doesn’t conduct heat well.)

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Outside of the chassis sits our sensor and IBIS unit, which I’m quite interested in.

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We aren’t going to get majorly aggressive here, but we’ll take off the cover plate.

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Which comes off easily along with the outer self-cleaning glass plate.

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We can’t get an exact glass measurement without taking the sensor apart, and we have a bad habit of breaking glass when we do that, so it will have to wait for the first Canon R5 to die for a more accurate measurement. We estimated the total (including the front piece) at about 2mm, which is Canon standard.

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I also wanted to look at how the sensor is supported in the IBIS unit. We’ve found some fractures in cameras where the sensor is supported by several screws-through-plastic-tabs. There is one screw tab you can see above, but that was mostly for the cover plate.

On all the edges of the Canon unit, the sensor is mounted directly to IBIS plate; no tabs. That doesn’t mean it can’t break, of course, or glue come loose. But this seems sturdier to me.

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On the IBIS itself, we can see the permanent magnets; the electromagnets are shielded here, so not completely obvious.

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So What Did We Learn Today?

Not much that was surprising. What with the IBIS unit and a more intense chipset, the camera is pretty thoroughly filled up, there are lots of parts and not much air. There’s a new weather sealing method in the lower 2/3 of the camera that seems to give a really, really tight seal. And there we some pretty new flexes which matters not a tiny bit to anyone but me.

The IBIS unit is very compact but well-engineered. There are no tab connections that might be weak points; the sensor is connected to a flat plate around all its edges. That doesn’t mean there can’t be problems, of course, this is a new build, so we won’t know for a year or so.

There seem to be two separate heat sinks, one under the voltage board, another between the main PCB and the sensor assembly, with thermal pads to direct heat to each. At least one of them connects to the tripod plate, which might provide a secondary sink. This is a lot of heat sink compared to most photo cameras, but not even a fraction of what we see in a video camera. What I can’t tell from this is how that heat then gets out of the camera. It’s sure not air circulation.

Given how tightly sealed things are, I’m curious as to where the heat goes to get out of the camera; some further investigation is required there. A lot of people are talking about how the heat should move around inside the camera, slapping some thermal paste around, and doing things to manipulate the heat cut offs.

I’m a simple person. All I can think of is, ‘how does the heat get out of the camera?’ Sure it goes into the metal sinks, but once they heat up, then where? In a small photo camera, there’s not a lot of ventilation/convection current to get let the heat out. This camera is better sealed than most; I doubt there’s very much ventilation at all.

Somebody should look into that.

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

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September, the ninth year of 2020

 

 

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • Scott

    It seems that it is more complicated than just a simple temperature sensor. People have tried various methods to cool the camera and they don’t influence the cool down period, so there must be some kind of timer function involved as well. Plus I’ve read about other hacks that seem to decrease the cool down period. Personally, I think Canon is taking too much flak for this “issue.” They were upfront about the limitations and given the amount of data being moved, it’s not surprising at all that heat would be an issue.

  • Ayoh M

    How do the latest Sony cameras compare?

  • Roger Cicala

    The Z7 and R5 are very similar quality – excellent. There are some minor differences that people will latch onto and say one is better than the other, at this or that. My opinion is they are equal.

  • Roger Cicala

    This may explain my mistake that Samuel pointed out below.

  • Roger Cicala

    That was my favorite part. Glad someone liked it.

  • Roger Cicala

    Good point on the outside temp, Rick. It seems these days, at least for some, the ‘jump to conclusion, defend it to the death’ method is too common.

  • Roger Cicala

    Thank you Samuel. Hoist by my own petard, as well as Ilijia’s. 🙂 Thank you for pointing that out.
    My memory is going . . . I can feel it.

  • GulliNL

    There are lots of people that mod their (older) DSLRs with active cooling fans for Astrophotography. Since you need long exposure times, and higher temperatures introduce more noise in the image. So what most people do is flip out the screen permanently, and cut out the plastic backing from where the screen would sit. Then fit a small CPU fan to the back of the camera.

  • Zak McKracken

    Some small air holes won’t help because at these scales, thermal convection will be close to zero, especially if there’s no place where cool air can get in if the warm air exits at the top…

    You’d have to make to openings on different sides of the heat source, then force air through, lots of it.

  • AE-1Burnham

    Not much deserves higher praise than Originality, and so I re-present to you the author’s triumph: “rhomboid of reduced suspicion”. Huzza!

  • Zak McKracken

    >>I’ll try to be clear about ‘this is what I know’ and ‘this is what I speculate.’<<

    Thank you for this sentence, and I wish a lot more people were that clear about it.

  • Rick

    Great article as always Roger.

    There’s also a gotcha with thermal conductivity to the outside of the camera, as the camera can’t exceed 50C or people will start to experience low temperature burns if they hold the camera more than 10-20 minutes.

    there’s alot in the design criteria that the internet “engineers” don’t really understand, and also, they don’t even want to.

  • Franck Mée

    Well, I knew 2020 was a long, long year, but are we already in the ninth year of 2020? Oo

  • Samuel Chia

    Hi Roger, thanks for the great teardown article! Couldn’t help but notice you mentioned ‘but I assume the vibration of an IBIS unit could loosen them over time; every IBIS camera we’ve opened uses shims.’ Incidentally the Z7 you tore down in 2018 uses spring-tensioned screws, not shims. BTW so does the Panasonic S1R (teardown was by Kolari Vision).

  • Johnny Liu

    Hey Roger, in the teardown article of the Z7 awhile back you called it ” the best built mirrorless full-frame camera we’ve taken apart”. Does that still hold true compared to the R5?

  • Athanasius Kirchner

    No worries. I think we should be thankful to all the women* working hard to build our gear 🙂

    *and the men too.

  • Roger Cicala

    Stay tuned, same channel, same week. Spoiler alert: no clear answers, but more information. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3c65a1f2c19ec2c30dfe673340e8003797bd4d9b4e8ec7b7caf7f8dab3eca60.jpg

  • Roger Cicala

    Thank you, Jim. Both for the compliment and for revealing the ‘dryer cycle’ 8k video feature. 🙂

  • Brandon Dube

    Could you define what you think “thermal infrared” is? x to y microns will do.

  • David

    Canon told one of the reviewers of the latest firmware update that there are 3 different temperature sensors in the body. The reports of temperature in the EXIF will only record one of these. The CFe card/reader also is a source of heat. Not sure how to fix that except external recording with no cards in or having the CFe bus turned off until needed – but that will have a small time delay to start up again

  • David

    The only place for heat conduction outside of the body is via the tripod mount. I tend to keep my arca swiss plate on my R5 since I forgot to bring it one time for my tripod and I notice that it did warm up when I did some tests (didn’t we all when we got it!) for thermal overheating. As it is connected to one of the heat sinks (spreaders), I speculate that a Peltier circuit connected to the tripod mount could be a reasonable improvement of the video limits.

  • Jim A.

    I think your skepticism about weather sealing is well founded. Sure, there are lots of nice gaskets and seals scattered about like gifts, but one tiny defect, pretty much anywhere, and capillary action ruins your day. If it’s fresh water, maybe a quick video clip will dry it out… (see what I did there?) but if it’s seawater, you’re doomed. I very much continue to enjoy your teardowns and observations. I won’t pretend to be another armchair thermal engineer, for me, if I was a video centered user, I’d use video gear, but I think my R5 is a great camera. I’m sure it will occasionally get somewhat wet, and your teardown makes me less fearful, but I’m confident a good soak would kill this camera, just like many others. Thanks again for sharing such reliably interesting and useful content with the rest of us, your knowledge base sharing is a gift to the photographic world that is genuinely appreciated. I see numerous blogs pointing to your content every time something gets posted. I always come to your site to read it. You guys/gals rock!

  • asad137

    Brandon, you should know that most white thermal control paints (such as those used in spacecraft thermal control) are ‘black’ in the thermal infrared, so they make good radiators for things that see sunlight.

  • Stefanie Daniella

    Canon scrutineers should look more closely at vast differences in both energy requirements and image data processing heat generated from image sensor and (on-sensor and off-sensor) processors, image display, and memory recording storage:
    ?Old Canon RAW CR2 vs newer faster more modular energy efficient Canon RAW CR3+CRM (better mathematics = less waste heat output)

    CR3/CRM Advantages (needs less energy; can process faster, sooner, more image data; thus generate less heat during image data handling):
    ?it started after EOS 1DXMkII (2016 Feb) … in summer (2016 June) new RAW Canon patent, just prior to emergence of CR3, albeit lowkey for EOS M50, then a bit more on EOS R, and slowly unveiled its (CR3+CRM) hidden full potential culminating in EOS 1DXMkIII + EOS R5 (+R6)

    ?this deliberate slow rollout of new Canon RAW CR3/CRM Advantages was necessary to keep competitors (and anti-canon consumers) off-balance and unlikely to ever match Canon for the next 2 decades in “Actual-Capture IMAGE DISPLAY LIVE” exclusive capabilities “Blackout-Free” (even with Mechanical Shutter High-Continuous (RAW) Stills fast-action sports Shooting; not just cine-video “Blackout-Free (by default)”)

    ?as of 2020+ (Sept), no Sony sensor can output “Actual-Capture IMAGE DISPLAY LIVE” blackout-free mechanical shutter = it’s image data is not displayed at all while it is blackingout in transit to storage, only a lagging past-preview videofedframe is available for display, not an actual “image capture live” (chimp-needy)

  • Roger Cicala

    It really is quite a unique texture. Almost like it was foamed on a very small scale, even though it wasn’t.

  • Roger Cicala

    Oops. Yes I did and I shouldn’t have. Statistically I suspect you are correct, and I respectfully change to ‘she’.

  • Robert M

    Most cellphone coolers will not fit in a camera. I did find a smartphone/tablet cooler that might fit. I am sure the Tilta one will probably be overpriced, but at least it will be a bespoke version for the R5. The R5 is pretty easy to keep cool inside and outside temperatures are dropping. As long as the Tilta cooler is available before the summer than everything should be fine except for those in the southern hemisphere.

  • Brandon Dube

    It’s better to ask forgiveness wait no that’s not it hmm pay a repair bill hmm no not that either figure out how to fix it than ask permission 😉

  • obican

    If you want to go down some rabbit hole, you can look up thermal conductivity of thermal pads, thermal paste and heat pipes. I’m not an engineer either but speaking from experience (about 20 years of PC cooling at a hobby level), you’d want something more than simple interconnected pieces of metal to transfer heat effectively over that distance. Heatpipes would’ve been a great solution but how would you make that work within a camera?

    Maybe internal heatpipes from the CPU/RAM/Other hotspots to a large bottom panel made of copper or aluminium and an external battery-grip-like-cooler that wlil have a large surface contact with that piece of metal and fans to cool that battery grip?

  • Roger Cicala

    @RNG I’ve got little knowledge of thermal transfer beyond the college Physics I mostly forgot, so serious question: would thermal connective tape or some soldered metal traces linked to the existing heat sinks and brought out of the camera to a larger, radiated sink be of significant benefit? Or would that probably not provide enough heat flow?

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