Canon 40mm Pancake – How Did They Do That??
We got our first batch of the Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake lenses in today and, as with all new lenses, I had to run them through Imatest to establish our acceptable standards for the lens. Let me start by saying I had low expectations. I don’t particularly like pancake lenses except on tiny cameras. They’re usually compromises between size and image quality and I’m an image quality guy, mostly. And, come on, it’s a $200 lens. But duty calls, so test them I must.
My first impression was the build quality was better than I expected. It has a metal mount, not plastic. The aperture blades appear more curved than most of the Canon 7 blade aperture rings, making a more circular opening. The little STM motor is not silent, but it’s pretty quiet. It’s also not lightning fast (as expected) but autofocus is certainly quicker than a Canon 85mm f/1.2 lens. And it’s amazingly tiny — the rear lens cap is about half as big as the lens. So far, so good, if the image quality doesn’t suck too bad.
Imatest Results
As always, these are Imatest MTF 50 results, so they reflect the performance at about 12 feet distance in our lab. Infinity and close-up results could be different to some degree. But the little 40mm has amazingly good numbers. To give some perspective, I’ve put it in a table with results for some other f/2.8 lenses. The higher number is MTF 50 at the center point, the lower number is average across the entire lens front measured at 20 points.
| Lens | Center | 20 pt | |
| Canon 40mm f/2.8 | 870 | 775 | |
| Canon 24-70 | 740 | 610 | |
| Canon 16-35 | 770 | 635 | |
| Canon 45 TS-E | 785 | 660 |
You can see the average number is really excellent, which is especially surprising since pancakes often have poor corners. This is sooo not the case here that I’ll show you a graphed printout of a typical copy. Notice it retains excellent sharpness right out to the absolute corners on a 5D II.

One thing I have to note: the results were VERY consistent. We only had a dozen copies to test but there was little lens-to-lens variation. As a rule pancake lenses don’t have lots of optical calibration adjustments inside, so they may depend on the manufacturing tolerances of the housing more than most lenses. Take this with a bit of a grain of salt, though, all the copies we tested were close in serial number, so there could be more variation when we get another dozen copies.
The 40mm f/2.8 lens is near peak sharpness wide open. The graph below shows 8 copies I tested at both f/2.8 and f/5.6. There’s only a slight increase in sharpness (I’m not certain that difference would be visible in a photograph, it’s within 5 SQF points.) That’s wonderful, but I want to point out that a lot of lenses that do improve stopped down (like the 3 in the table above) would ending up being sharper than the 40mm at f/4 or f/5.6.

The only other comment I have about the little lens is that manually focusing, while possible, is rather difficult: the focusing ring is really thin and I found a fingernail moves it better than my whole fingertip. Mostly, though, it has a small range so a tiny movement can move the focus a lot. But then, one of the main purposes of this lens was to provide smooth video autofocusing.
Overall, though, I’m extremely impressed. I’d be impressed if a lens this size and price was just decent, but this one is excellent. I might as well go ahead and get in trouble with the business manager: if you think you want this lens, just go ahead and buy it. At this price, unless some of the more thorough reviewers find something I missed on this quick overview, you can’t go wrong.
Roger Cicala
Lensrentals.com
June 2012

81 Comments
Brian Leighty ·
This lens looks excellent. Roger, I don’t know if you have the time but it’d be interesting to see an imatest comparison between this and the 50 1.8 or 50 1.4 at the 2.8 aperture. Oh by the way just ’cause you said to just go ahead and buy it doesn’t mean I’m not going to rent it from you guys at least once. So your business manager can take a sigh of relief. It’s a cheap rental as long as I’m already renting something else and will definitely be something I look forward to trying out. Great job as always.
Jon Cornforth ·
Thank you for your review. I have 1 on order and can’t wait to start using it. I am going to be doing something quite different with it. I will be using it on a Canon T2i that will be suspended in the air from a kite line. I anticipate having some unique new images from my travels in the coming months.
RobertZ ·
Thanks a lot for sharing your test results and impressions with the rest of us! Seems like this could be a really good lens for those who want to shoot wide open. Can share with us how this lens compares to the lenses above when stoppped down (I assume the results above and the diagram are at f/2.8)? You said the other ones are sharper stepped down, but how much, just a bit or a lot? Also, how does it compare to 50mm f/1.4 at 2.8? Again, THANKS!
Roger Cicala ·
Robert,
The 40 is fairly unique in that it just doesn’t get much sharper stopped down (the green triangles are at f/5.6). Most lenses do improve for two stops or so, more than the 40 does.
Michael B ·
Thank you for your interesting report – it’s good to hear your impressions from “experimental data” and combine it with my first photographic impressions of that lens (I made my first photos with it yesterday).
I wished always that camera companies (for me Canon for compatibility) combine standard lens designs/lens types with current technologies.
The new 40mm pancake does exact that: Combine a more or less boring focal length/max aperture with great coatings, an aspherical element and perhaps good glasses. I expected spectacular quality from the basic setting and my first photos confirmed that by very contrasty images and exceptional flare resistance – once again: A “boring lens” which incorporates current technologies to act as a great tool!
Thanks again for your work and for publishing it – Michael
Sanford ·
Did you actually try taking photos with it?
Roger Cicala ·
Sanford = yes, of test targets. We’re in a windowless lab, unless we take pictures of each other (not a worthwhile thought), test targets are all we have.
Nicholas Condon ·
The numbers and price look good, but I’m still puzzled as to what body the Canon designers had in mind when they made this lens. It’s a great focal length on FF, but an itty-bitty pancake on a 5D-sized brick seems a bit silly. It might make some size sense on a little T3i, but 65 mm-e is a focal length of questionable utility at best to most folks.
Bob B. ·
Great review, Roger. Thanks for posting it…I now feel well informed about the this little 40mm….but…do I really need this little ditty???…I am on the edge of my seat waiting on the 24-70mm IS II. …and I have two really GREAT MFT cameras with pancakes galore. So I am guessing, even tho I am tempted..and I want to fill a void because I have no kit lens at the moment (I sold my 24-105mm to buy the new 24-70mm BEFORE Canon changed the shipping date)…so…I am going to fight my lens disease for today and put the $200 toward the uber-expensive 24-70mm II…but it looks like a GREAT little lens!!!!!! Thanks again.
Jerry Russell ·
What do you think this lens would do on an APS-C camera like a 60D or T4i? Would it be stuck around 625 lph peak at f/5.6, as you would guess from the crop ratio? Or would it benefit much from the extra pixel density? I think it’s interesting that the better M43 and NEX-7 lenses seem to be just as good as Canon full-frame at its best (around 1000 lph) while crop DSLRs are lagging behind. Or, are there any lenses that can do 1000 lph on a crop?
Mark V ·
I had a change to check this lens out this morning and it is an outstanding value. Thanks for the great review and for putting those numbers up so we can compare. Now, where is Nikon’s pancake?
bluto ·
Brian,
Lens rentals did a similar test with a whole bunch of 50mm lenses. The 40 matches up well wide open.
http://wordpress.lensrentals.com/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout
I’m not sure they’re perfectly comparable, the the 45mm TS had similar numbers then and now.
David Wallace ·
I have a Contax Ziess 40mm pancake (on my 5D mk2), anyone know what its worth & or how it rates to the Canon?
Gianfranco Verrua ·
Very well, thank you: I’ll buy it as soon as possible for my 5D mark II!
Finally a lens – qualitative, light and cheap – good (may be…) for 35 and 50mm fans
as I am. Thanks again.
Chris ·
Nicholas, I believe the reason for the focal length is in relation to the distance of the EF mount (which is around 43ish mm). Its the simplest lens configuration to be right around that FL (thus why good 50mm lenses are cheap and plentiful from Canon, and 14mm or 600mm are not). Same reason why the Panasonic pancakes are 17/21mm, which is right around the flange distance of m4/3 (20mm). A lens with a shorter focal length has to have more elements to bend the light, and likewise for a lens of longer focal length.
The details are far more complicated than that, but to keep a lens pancake size, it has to be around the same FL of its mount; or sacrifice a lot
Brian Leighty ·
Thanks bluto. I read that article before but it’s been a while. Alright, on that note, Roger, have you guys ever thought of doing a database of your imatest results? I think that would be really cool and could even be something you guys list on each product page maybe.
Jim Colwell ·
Roger,
Thanks for sharing your results. The consistency is encouraging. This is probably a good example of the KISS Principle in operation.
I’ll get one to compare with my Tessar 45/2.8, Ultron 40/2.8, and a few small 50’s. I’ll post the results on the usual forum. That would be FM. 😉
Cheers, Jim
Yemin ·
If I have a 50mm F/1.4 why would I get this lens. I do have a pancake 20mm F/1.7 on my tiny GX1, there it is a perfect fit.
Bob Heathcote ·
Did you order the lens hoods, too, i.e. the ES-52? Harder to find than the lens!
Oliver Roxas ·
can’t wait to get my pancake… already on its way!!!
Ignat Solovey ·
Your conclusion is what I expect from this lens, no less. Anyway, it’s a thing long dreamed of, a tiny normal prime (“fifty”) for my 1D Mark IV (and, earlier, 1D Mark IIN). Some time ago I really considered buying Zuiko 40/2, and I would, if it wasn’t so rare and, obviously, ridiculously overpriced thanks to collectors and the fact that Maitani Yoshihisa, Pen and OM original developer, may he rest in peace, created that 40/2 for himself (I have also OM-4 body and pretty decent lineup of midrange Zuiko primes and one zoom). The only thing which stopped me from getting that Zuiko, except price, was lack of autofocus. Now Canon made even better thing than I ever imagined. Just why they don’t add manual sound controls in 1D Mark IV, while it’s already done this or that way in all other Canon HDSLRs save for 500D and 7D (500D is obsolete, 550D is ok with Magic Lantern and new 7D firmware is pretty certainly rumored to be on the way. Being photojournalist, I don’t want to buy one more body to do small video interviews and recording street music, even the cheapest one, that means more bulk, not to mention weak and incompatible batteries… And no, I don’t want to mess with external recorder like I do now, sometimes it’s pretty easy to forget to push two REC buttons instead of one).
Jerry Russell ·
The cumulative results of this series of experiments is indeed getting very interesting. Roger, this is a great service to the photographic community, especially the studies of sample variation.
I had forgotten about that article about 50mm lenses. Towards the end of the article, it’s mentioned that there are indeed some lenses that give 1100-1200 lph on Canon and Nikon FF. That was before the D800 came out. Would those be long telephotos like the 135L, 300L, etc?
johann ·
Do you have any very sharp pictures with it?
James ·
This resolution characteristic (relatively even across the frame and at all apertures) looks very similar to that of the Pentax 40mm F/2.8 pancake(s) (http://www.photozone.de/pentax/630-pentax40f28?start=1).
Mark ·
I have long been a fan of pancake lenses and the Tessar design that spawned them. This is a classic design noted for sharpness , contrast and simplicity. Modern refinements in coatings, glass and construction just make it better. Thanks to Canon we now have one that will revive interest in a very cool design.
jpjeff ·
does anyone know if this lens allow auto focus in video on 5dIII?
yudi wied ·
i think this lens will be match with rebel t4i / 650d. Because 40mm have new stepping motor system for smooth auto focusing with video mode.
canonrumour.com said canon will release compact mirorless system camera in 2013 ,maybe like canon g1x with interchanegable lens.( sorry with my english )
Dennis ·
Fast focusing? You said it it fast, would you say it is a worthy replacement for my 50 1.8 that I used for indoor action shots? I get a lot of misfocused images with my nifty fifty. Some is my fault certainly but some I can’t help but think is that lens isn’t focusing fast enough.
Bruce Philpott ·
This lens sounds wonderful for an auto-focus camera. The short movement of the focus ring causing major focus changes and the focus ring being so narrow both sound as if it wouldn’t be that great a lens for non-auto-focus cameras such as my 5DII.
Matthias ·
Resolution and IQ considerations aside, does it really make sense for lensrentals to stock that lens? Given the price it appears a no-brainer to just go out and buy one 😉
Jack ·
What’s the point of such a small lens on a bulky DSLR!
Mandeno Moments ·
“The 40 is fairly unique in that it just doesn’t get much sharper stopped down”
The Canon 28/2.8 is similar in this regard. See http://tinyurl.com/c59nkru
Leonard ·
such a rip off of Pentax
Adam Palmer ·
I’ve been recommending people get the 50mm 1.8 as their first lens after the kit lens. I think I’d rather recommend this lens. The 50 is just a little too long on a crop camera. Sounds like it’s a great little lens. Thanks for the review!
Ernst Dinkla ·
Very nice at that price though bokeh and vignetting has to be checked too. The alternative Voigtländer 40mm or competition Pentax 40mm (APS) do not score well on bokeh and vignetting. Both have no STM motor aboard and their price is high. The bigger old Canon 35mm f2.0 is sharp and cheap but has the same bokeh and vignetting limitations. The bigger Zeiss 35mm f2.0 is in a different price category but is not free from vignetting too. All in all Canon marketing and the engineers aimed at a weak spot in the competition and succeeded even when bokeh and vignetting are like the other pancakes:
http://florianhassler.tumblr.com/
Wonder what basic lens design pancakes like that fall within: Planar, Plasmat or a WA design?
Marke Blue ·
roger: thanks for the review.
@jack: “What’s the point of such a small lens on a bulky DSLR!” – perhaps to minimize that very bulk? shoot one-handed on the fly? to use as a back-up lens on your back-up smaller body? to fill that tiny empty spot in your bag? to keep in your shirt pocket?
@leonard: “such a rip off of Pentax” – didn’t pentax make the first slr? all the companies “ripping off” each other is what pushes the technology and allows us to enjoy their fruits!
Robin Smith ·
Vignetting is not a problem – its a feature for most shots. It looks a good one. Not sure whether I need one over the 50s – without a hood they are quire small small too.
Neil Kirby ·
@jack: “What’s the point of such a small lens on a bulky DSLR”
@Nicholas: “an itty-bitty pancake on a 5D-sized brick seems a bit silly”
I think it’s a vacation lens when used on a full frame. (I could be wrong).
Being wider than 50mm gives you better scenery shots. Any wider and your people shots would be too compromised. If you can only pack ONE lens, it might be the lens to pack when space and mass really count. When you have to carry the camera on your person by the neck strap (instead of in a bag), the tiny lens is less obtrusive, less conspicuous (no white body, no red ring), and less likely to get bashed.
You might question using a 5D as a vacation camera, but with a f/2.8 lens it will stomp any point and shoot in low light situations. If you are on a vacation (as opposed to a photo shoot), then you want normal perspective with the highest quality you can easily get.
I don’t see other killer uses – but this isn’t my favorite focal length.
Ernst Dinkla ·
About the bulk, what will be the overall depth from the filter rim to the LCD rim on a 5D MK II, compared to a Pentax K5 with its 40mm pancake? The flange to sensor distance of the Canons is already short compared to Pentax flange to sensor depth, the Antishake of the Pentax sensor must add some mms too.
John Fryatt ·
@jack: “What’s the point of such a small lens on a bulky DSLR”
@Nicholas: “an itty-bitty pancake on a 5D-sized brick seems a bit silly”
The point is that it makes the body/lens combo (even a 5D) considerable easier to carry around, as it’s much flatter and therefore fits in a bag etc. a lot easier. Secondly, it is a lot less intimidating to people than a huge zoom stuck in their face.
I have one of these lenses now. Haven’t had a chance to use it extensively yet, but first looks are very good. Focussing speed is quite satisfactory (particularly for the use it is likely to be put to) and I can’t see any of the vignetting some have mentioned.
Eric ·
Roger, thanks for this. Here’s a question that will help me decide if this lens will focus fast enough for me to use to catch my daughter and son in action.
Does this lens focus as fast as the nifty fifty? Does it focus as fast as Canon’s standard kit lens? These comparisons will really help me. Thanks.
Roger Cicala ·
Hi Eric,
I’d put it about the same as the 18-55 IS kit lens / Canon 50 f/1.4 lens category. Not lightning, but it moves along well.
Chris Mac ·
I sold my 50mm 1.4 today after using this 40mm for the past week. I know now that I will never put that glass on my 5D again and as I primarily use the fixed glass for street photography, this new pancake is the perfect discrete piece of glass.
I was even looking into getting Voigtlander Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 which is marginally faster but it a pure manual focus lens. Great in theory but poor in practice because getting that last second shot just doesn’t happen when you have to focus.
This is my new daily glass for my camera despite owning 24-70 and 70-200
Rex Gigout ·
I found one of these wonderful little lenses at a local big-name electronics store. (Camera dealers and on-line seelers still seemed to still be waiting for theirs.) At the low price point, I did not expect excellence, but the 40mm EF is a remarkably good lens, based upon what I am seeing on an IPad, which is the best monitor available to me at this point in time.
2.8 is not as fast as some of my L primes, but I tend to stop them down a bit, anyway, unless I am shooting in darkness.
For those who wonder about the wisdom of such a tiny lens on a bulky DSLR, well, I love the combination of this pancake on my 5D. Yes, a DSLR is indeed bulky, so why add a bulky lens? Instead of the expense and compromises of buying and
using a compact system camera, I have made my 5D amazingly easier to tote, whether on a strap, or inside a much
smaller bag or case. I predict this little lens may be less intimidating when out and about in public. I plan to try that tomorrow or this evening.
Elias T ·
Nice and detailed review! I just have one more question. I heard that manual focusing is only possible when the lens is attached to a camera that is switched on (does the lens actually fall into sleeping mode after a few seconds in manual mode and is that an issue?). If so, would the lens also work on an analog canon 1000f for example?
RP ·
Roger,
What about its video performance? Did you test it in video mode? How do you place it: A portrait or a landscape lens? You said its STM motor is not silent but quite quiet. Did you test it in the new Rebel T4i? You said your lens batch gave even results. Did you think that lens results tend to group around a serial batch?
Christian Armetta ·
Roger, do you know if it is a Tessar design?
ererere ·
now imagine canon would update their 20 year old 50mm f1.4 lens with todays technology…. that would impress me but not a rather slow f2.8
Rob S ·
I buyed this little gem two days ago, and it is excellent ! Some little color fringing at the edges. Also I see vignetting at full open, but never a problem. I will wait if Canon updating its DPP-software adding this lens. After that, fringing and vignetting will be completely solved ! Now I search also for a small bag to transport it on my 5DMKII !
Luke ·
Question to owners
In the movie mode: is it possible to focus the lens manually all the time or does it go into sleep mode (just like when shooting stills) and you have to half press shutter button to wake it up. Thanks.
Peter Thomas ·
Any thoughts on the viability of popping on a 2x teleconverter to further benefit from a light and mobile kit?
Brad Harris ·
Do you think it’s a better lens than 50mm 1.8 or 1.4 for pure sharpness, particularly for art reproduction, products or group photos?
Stefan ·
@Peter Thomas: A 2x teleconverter will turn the lens into a 80/5.6. Doesn’t make too much sense, does it?
Jeff Jolie ·
Thanks for the report. Just bought one, plan on using it in NYC this weekend!
confused ·
just purchased. why does the instruction manual only list EOS 1 series (+ EOS 3) under:
About the AF frame selection:
* High accuracy cross detection can be used in the center AF frame and horizontal line detection can be used in the frames other than the center AF frame for the following cameras (then goes on to only list 1D series cameras).
Many more canon cameras have fast lens support for AF. Why are the 1D cameras the only ones called out? I personally am not sure how many 1D owners will buy this lens, although it’s probably the closest to a normal prime on the 1.3 body.
Daniel ·
Focus already stopped working after one day.
Worked again after remounting the lens.
Not a good feeling though on the first day.
Even for manual focus the motor is needed.
Manual focus was disengaged as well?
Broken or just a small hickup?
Roger Cicala ·
Hi Daniel,
I haven’t taken one apart yet to see the insides, but that could be a gear with a broken tooth. I’d send it back to swap out if you can.
Roger
Vu ·
Daniel: I noticed the same thing. I was able to duplicate issue every time by doing the following: when it’s working, focus at infinity (and the inner tube will be at the maximum extension). Turn off the camera. Put the cap on, and continue to press (albeit gently), so the extended tube is now retracted all the way in. Turn the camera on. Viola! The focus mechanism does NOT engage, even if you press shutter button half-way down. Nothing will engage the focusing again until you re-mount the lens again.
Weird! And a bit discomforting, as you mentioned! It doesn’t take much effort to push that tube back in, and it’s been happening so often when I put the camera (with lens mounted) in my bag and run off to my next meeting, etc. I always have to re-mount the lens, and it takes away from having a camera ready at any moment.
I’ve read all of Canon’s current manual and instructions included with the lens, and how the STM goes to sleep when it’s not being used, and how it gets it’s power from the camera, and that’s why it can’t be focused manually when it’s off, etc.
I’m not sure if there’s a work-around at this point. This is a big issue for me, and I’m thinking of returning the lens because of it (unless there’s a workaround).
Besides the obvious: “don’t push the tube back in,” “re-mount the lens every time,” I’m hoping someone has a suggestion so I can keep this otherwise nice lens! 🙂
Dan ·
Thanks for the review. A usually forgotten factor is that cheap lenses use lower quality glass, and this affects color rendering very noticeably in some conditions. An example is the 50/1.8 vs 50/1.2. What about this lens ?
mrkgoo ·
I’m also getting some issue where the motor will not engage after a period of sleep and requires remounting.
Canon 7D.
Isaac ·
Exact same thing here. Lens arrived yesterday and in general am very pleased with it (super sharpness at f2.8), but it’s already three times had the “will not focus” thing (including not even focusing manually) requiring a remount each time. I don’t think I was pushing at anything… unless pushing gently while putting the lens cap on counts.
mrkgoo ·
I haven’t had the issue beyond the firs two, but admittedly, I ahven’t been out and using it all that much, jsut checking day to day. I wonder if it’s just a quirk, like it needs to be reset if bumped?
I know the Canon 7D doesn’t fully power down with power off (the viewfinder actually goes dark when fully powered down), so maybe a proper power cycle (ie remove battery) might reset the lens too. I’ll give that a go if and when the next time it happens.
It would help if we can get a consensus of when it’s happening, and what model camera people have.
Again, I have a 7D, and it happened when I was either powering the device on or waking it.
Airquotes ·
I’ve had the same focus problem with mine on a 5D MK II. It happened a couple times before I tried Vu’s method of pushing it in and was able to recreate the problem exactly. I think this is a quirk of the lens and not a problem with any one copy. With all the reports of this problem I’ve been reading I think exchanging it would make no difference as all copies of the lens have the problem. It’s really annoying but probably not a deal breaker for me. I’ve just been focusing at infinity so the lens is fully recessed before i put it back in my bag. I wonder if Canon will issue a recall if it truly affects all copies as I suspect it does.
mrkgoo ·
Airquotes: I’m suspecting it’s a weird quirk… that is, since the motor is not engaged with the focus ring, if the focus has shifted (by force for example) since the last time it stopped or was asleep or whatever, it requires a complete power down and reset (ie remount).
That said, if that were the case, it should be fixable in a firmware for the lens, I would imagine. Otherwise, I wonder if firmware for teh cameras can be adjusted to ‘fix’ it?
Joe ·
Hi Robert,
Do you think the 40mm pancake is better optically than the 50mm 1.8?
Thanks.
Sasham5 ·
In my totally “unscientific” tests, I found it much superior in sharpness to 50mm 1.8, especially wide open, but also at 2.8. No comparison…
but it’s got a tiny hole, so the amount of light is an issue.
bullmoon ·
I cannot repro the focus problem. I have had the lens for over 2 weeks and shot quite a bit with it – often “manually” retracting/pushing in the lens after powering off the camera – almost always in fact. Just tried it again following the steps Vu gave and no repro.
I like it – handy lens, pictures look fine, 40mm works well for casual shooting out and about for a compact setup.
Canon 5D MKII / latest firmware: 2.1.2
zemitch ·
Focus blocked after two shoots… Mounted on 5D2.
Ben ·
I sent Canon an email.
I thought about buying this lens then gave up after reading the comments about focus.
Ben ·
I found some explanation in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIGbY3UNN_w&feature=related
It seems as though it goes to sleep before the camera itself goes to sleep, and it does need power from the camera to use manual focus. So it goes to sleep too soon.
Tor-Arne ·
I own this lens myself. And I can verify the focus issue.
But now I know that Canon already has issued an FW update for the 7D to remedy this issue. And we’re already seeing FW updates rolling out to remedy the issue on other models as well.
But so far I found the only solution is to unmount and remount the lens again.
A minor niggle in the grand scheme of things.
Whenever I’ve used the lens in AF mode I always switch it to MF and roll it back before putting on the lens cap. This has kept the issue from reappearing for me.
bip ·
Great to read constructive comments and a v helpful review… Has to be said. Bip.
ernesto ·
I have a Panasonic AF 100 with a Kipon EOS-m4/3 Canon EOS to Micro Four Thirds Lens Adapter w/ Aperture Control
Does anyone know if this lens works with this adapter? It seems that I would need an adopter that would have to power the lens electronically.
Daryl McMullen ·
I bought this lens too – and placed it on my Canon 7D. Nothing happened… Didn’t act powered at all. Unmounted and remounted and nothing. My 7D read 00 for Aperture.
Wound up finding that there is a firmware update for the lens. This update can be applied when mounted on specific cameras (like the 5d MIII) but very unstable and not possible on a 7D.
So I sent it in to have the update applied for me.
Just got it back today – hoping all is well – still haven’t been home to test it.
Good luck all!
Daryl
James ·
I have read so many reviews on this lens, and am getting kinda confused.
I have the 50mm 1.8, and would be buying this lense for video and still work.
I am hearing a lot of people say that the STM motor is not as quiet as canon say and still produces noticable noise…
I am using a 650d, and I know the STM tech is optimised for this camera.
I suppose the question would be, am I really going to see a difference between the 40mm and the 50mm?!
Roger Cicala ·
James,
Both are good lenses and great values. Both make enough noise that you would hear it using on camera mic for video. Image quality is excellent. The 40mm will AF more accurately.
Roger
Andy ·
Thanks, am planning to buy one soon 😛
Jeremy ·
The focus issue can be resolved by ensuring the lens is fully retracted before turning off the camera. You can do this by focusing to infinity and manually rotating the focus ring, if needed, until it is fully retracted. I read about this before purchasing the lens and have only had it not focus for me once or twice after forgetting to fully retract before turning off.
Hope that helps. Love the lens! Good intro to a prime. Not a walk around for me, I missed some good shots in Jamaica because I couldn’t walk back enough to fit everything I wanted in the shot.
I partially got it in the hopes that I would get better pics at night but the way I was shooting, I would have preferred to have the IS on my kit 18-55. When I got back from my trip, I bought a flash for those low light situations.
The compact size is great! I did not worry as much about smacking my camera into things while walking around with it hanging on a rapid strap. It also didn’t get in the way much when walking around with my fiancé.
Being a beginner photographer, I don’t know as much as some others on here and don’t have as good of an eye for quality I guess. When comparing shots taken with the 40mm and the 18-55 is kit at 40mm, I did not notice much difference. Yes, the 2.8 gives better focus control and bokeh but in terms of overall image quality, my eye couldn’t see much of a difference.
I am definitely going to keep playing with this lens. It will be used for certain situations and is easy to carry in my bag in case I want to use it but if I have to leave the house with one lens, I will choose the 18-55 over the 40mm. At least until I save up for a 17-55, 17-50, 15-85 or possibly an 18-125. I want to spend a good amount of time using the 18-55 and 40 before I buy another lens. You won’t really know what you value in a lens until you’ve spent some quality time taking and reviewing photos in various settings.
Do I recommend this? Absolutely! This over the 50/1.8? I haven’t used the 50 but I’m happy I chose the 40. Yes, it’s not 1.8 but 50mm on an crop sensor would be too limiting for my use, take away from the overall compact size and honestly, I wasn’t a fan of the 1.8 performance I saw of the 50 and the 40 seemed to be better at 2.8 and up.
jpsi ·
They probably have done it in the same way Pentax made their 40mm F2.8 XS for less than $200 :P.
l_d_allan ·
I looked around for a “Just the Lens” type article that had OLAF’ish numbers for the 40mm pancake … including variance/consistency back when you were reporting that single “figure of merit” number for variance.
Did I miss a link to the variance number (with MTF charts)?
I did find the variance number for the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM, which was in the “stellar category” with variance of 9.3:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/07/variation-measurement-for-50mm-slr-lenses/
IIRC, the variance number for the 40mm pancake was over 10, but I can’t find the actual link to an article with the specifics. Careless / lazy on my part?
I remain hopeful that LR works out how to more validly report on the concept of consistency / variance of specific lens models. Any progress on that? (and if that comes about, please consider having a lower number of variance be better than a higher number).
l_d_allan ·
My interest in the 40mm pancake isn’t just academic / curiousity.
I am still pondering trying to use MtfMapper to get actual lp/ph numbers that had some probability of being reasonably valid / accurate / repeatable. I’m having correspondence with the developer … Frans van den Bergh.
If there was some level of interest in something like a “MtfMapper User Group”, I’m wondering if something could be worked out with LensRentals / LensAuthority to purchase the super highly consistent 40mm pancake that had actual OLAF numbers for that specific lens.
That might a a “known baseline” to refine “best practice” on using MtfMapper. The idea might be to check how well user of MtfMapper was making progress on getting the “over the top attention to detail” in order to get values that were in reasonably close correspondence to OLAF numbers.
But I’d think it would take some conversion factors to go from OLAF numbers to MtfMapper numbers that involve a sensor … non trivial?