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Taking Apart the Canon RF 600mm f/11 IS STM

Published August 24, 2020

Here I sit, the guy who gets poetic writing about tiny resolution differences in high-priced wide-aperture lenses, having just bought this lens. Its aperture is in the diffraction-softening range. The manufacturer’s (pronounced ‘better than reality’) MTF charts aren’t very good.

600mm f/11 compared to 100-500mm f4.5-7.1 at 500mm, Canon.com

So why did I buy this pig? Because it could fit a need, of course. Despite the religious fervor with which some worship certain lenses and brands, despite my complaints about this lens’ astigmatism or that lens’ corners, it always comes down to ‘does it do the job?’.

I spend a week a month at a vacation home on a lagoon next to a wildlife refuge. Photography is not why I go. It’s downtime and I don’t take a bunch of gear. But sometimes I see really cool birds or reptiles and wish I could get a picture. The reptiles are often alligators, so I wish to take that picture from a distance. So if the Canon RF 600mm f/11 can get me ‘internet acceptable’ images for $699 and 2 pounds, it would be worthwhile. (I rented the camera, I still haven’t committed to a mirrorless system yet. Commitment, well, it’s not my strength.)

Since the lens arrived the day before I left, Aaron suggested we should take it apart and see what’s in there. Besides air. At 2 pounds, there’s going to be a lot of air. I was leaving in a few hours, but we do this all the time, so we were confident. We were, perhaps, even, a tiny bit arrogant, since the only R mount camera we had available was back at my house, packed for the drive. (This here is what we professional writer types call foreshadowing.)

A Quick, “So How’d They Do That?”

It’s f/11, but it’s still 600mm in a 2-pound package, which is unheard of. They do it with diffraction optics. The same type as the 400mm f/4 IS DO, specifically, the newer ‘gapless’ diffraction optics. This basically is market speak for ‘instead of an air space between the DO elements, we invented some special glue.’

Image from Canon.com technical paper: “Gapless Dual-Layered Diffractive Optical Elements.”

Compared to ‘gapped’ diffraction optics, the gapless design reduces longitudinal chromatic aberration, ring-shaped flare, and improves contrast. Some. You can read about it here.

While I can’t find the lens block diagram, Canon has a fairly recent patent for 600mm and 800mm f/11 lenses that seems right. We know there are 10 elements in 7 groups in the 600mm f/11, (compared to 17 in 13 for a 600mm f/4 IS; or 18 in 12 for the 400mm f/4 IS DO lens). The patent is one element short of that, but patents often differ from the final product a bit.

I have to say, the DO element being right up there at the front makes me a bit nervous from a scratch and chip standpoint. But, the construction should be fairly simple in there. We think. Those of you who follow our teardowns know things are usually not like we think they’re going to be.

Let’s Take Stuff Apart

From the outside, it’s pretty much a standard looking lens, except for the ring that locks-unlocks to extend the barrel. You have to unlock, extend, and relock before the camera will let you shoot with the lens (shown here with barrel extended). Lots of air in there, we said. Easy disassembly, we said. It’ll be fun, we said.

Narrator’s voice: But it was not easy, and it was not fun. 

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We removed the tripod mount first; a lot of telephoto lenses give you some access underneath the tripod mount.

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We found the mounting plate was quite a heavy, robust thing.

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But there wasn’t any access underneath it.

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The rear mount is pretty much standard.

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The bayonet is held in place by seven long, large screws. That’s more than most bayonet mounts, but the screws mount into plastic, not metal, so that seems like a good idea.

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Then we pop out the plastic light baffle. By the way, it says “made in Taiwan” on the inside of the baffle. I only throw this out because someone’s going to pop out their light baffle, read that, and then have a melt-down on the internet. It doesn’t matter where your lens is assembled; the parts inside it come from all over.

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Then we take off the bayonet.

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The spacer ring and rearmost barrel lift right off.

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While this is not a weather-resistant lens, but there are some felt seals under various barrels, probably as friction pads.

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We took out the PCB and then removed the screws holding the ‘adjust-lock’ barrel in place.

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Which slides right off. This concludes the ‘just like we expected’ portion of this teardown.

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You can see the circular tensioning spring right above the felt in the image above; there’s also a standard spring on the opposite side of this barrel.

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There are a pair of extensive metal guides or posts that are involved in the locking/extension mechanism and probably provide some barrel support. We think. Honestly, we’ve never seen anything quite like this mechanism, so we’re hunting our way around here.

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It seemed the likely next move was to take those guides out.

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But they liked it where they were. Taking out the screws wasn’t quite enough to encourage them to leave their posts.

So we took out the ring of screws at the top of the extending barrel.

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That just let us slide the outer sleeve from the extending barrel.

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With that off, we have enough room to take out the metal side braces, or guides, or whatever you want to call them. They’re certainly more than the inch-long guides we were expecting.

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They’re quite solid pieces of metal, going almost the length of the lens, so I suspect the provide some structural rigidity.

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If you’re getting the impression that this doesn’t look like your typical Canon lens, well, so were we. Those long guides went way down into the lens. So do several flexes, and the flex layout is less direct than we usually see with Canon. Taking off the switch panel seemed like a good idea; it would hopefully let start tracing the flexes.

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But it really only showed us a plug for the switches.

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We took off the inside of the lock-unlock barrel and its circular spring next, mostly because we could see how to do it.

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We can see the lock / unlock switch now. You can see the amber-colored plastic of a barrel guide in the upper left part of the image. There’s a pretty big flex with about 20 traces diving straight down into the lens. That many traces probably means it’s going to split like tree branches, so tracing it out is going to be ultra-important if we want this lens to work when we’re done.

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Now we can see the set of screws that are obviously holding the mid barrel, so those come out next, and the middle barrel should slide right off.

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Well, the screws came right out, but the barrel went nowhere. We thought that taking out the set of guides (nice and sturdy, but a type of plastic we’ve not seen before) might help.

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Taking those out let us extend the barrel fully but did nothing else. It did expose a set of screws that looked like it held the extending barrel to the front barrel. The barrel-to-barrel junction is plastic to plastic, but numerous double screws hold it together, so it looks pretty sturdy.

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By the way, all the flexes are enthusiastically taped to the extending barrel. If you intend to enter this temple yourself, we suggest making heavy offerings of alcohol and heat to the Flex Gods, or you’re going to tear something you don’t want to tear.

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After taking out the junction screws, we offered up some 4-letter prayer words to the high priests of Canon engineering, because, well, nothing was coming apart, flexes dipped down into places we couldn’t reach, and everything was at a standstill. So we put the screws back in and decided we’d try going in from the front.

The makeup ring, like the flexes, took a fair amount of time to spungy off. Canon seems to have upped their adhesive game a notch. We weren’t playing anymore. After alcohol, we got out the heat gun and told the makeup ring, “you can come off, or you can melt; your choice.” The makeup ring decided this wasn’t the hill to die on and eventually gave way.

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With it out, we could remove a set of six screws underneath it.

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Which let us take off the filter ring. (Note: this means filter ring replacement is quick, simple, and probably cheap if you bust it.)

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Now we can see two sets of screws. The inner set seems to hold the front group in place, the outer set seems (I say seems because by this point we’ve lost trust in how anything seems) to hold on the focusing barrel.

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Taking those screws out let us finally accomplish something; the entire external barrel comes off as one piece. I wish we’d known this two hours ago.

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A look inside shows us what was keeping the mid barrel from coming off and take the appropriate actions.

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And that there are some internal posts that prevented disassembling the outer barrel piece-by-piece. So next time we’ll know, you have to remove the whole outer barrel before you start dismantling it.

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We also found that what looked like weird, random flex runs were because the flexes ran in an odd random way. They go all the way from the bayonet mount to the front of the lens, some of them turning around and going back down. It’s flex anarchy up in there. There’s probably some reason for it, but right now, 3 hours into an expected 1-hour disassembly, I think the reasoning took place after the engineers drank a lot of sake.

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Below you see the SLAGI connector. As in “Seems Like A Good Idea” to run the flex all the way from the bayonet to the front of the lens, then connect it to another flex to run back down the lens.

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There are some very Nikon-like right-angle bends, tape holding stuff down, and even (GASP!!) a bit of flex solder. That 20-something trace flex split into about half-dozen different traces that took about three right-angle turns each.

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While the electronics don’t look like the usual Canon lens, the optics do. We can also see there are several robust eccentric adjustment colors on some of the mid-area lens groups. You can see one to the right of the white tape above; there’s another shown down below.

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And yet another paired set towards the rear.

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With all this disassembled, we went back and finally took out the screws that seemed to hold the extending barrel in place and took them out.

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And then could slide it off.

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We can look down and see the IS unit now, still reasonably far forward in the barrel.

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We examined the screws holding the front element in place; it’s neither shimmed for tilt, nor a centering adjustment (full disclosure: we have no desire to try centering a DO element), so we took those out.

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This just removed a ring plate holding the front element down.

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You can see the front group is a cemented pair now, just like the patent diagram suggests. If you look into the slots below the element, you can see (OK, we could see) that it was cemented in place. We had zero interest in breaking up that cement just to look down the barrel.

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That’s All Folks

At this point, we were over 3 hours into disassembling this beast, and I had to leave in another hour or two. The front group was cemented in place; we weren’t going to uncement it. Further barrel disassembly was going to start with a LOT of flex tracing and unhooking, and we just weren’t up for that today.

We’d found the electronic construction was complex for a Canon lens, or at least very different. The optical construction in the core has a very Canon look, with numerous optical adjustments/compensations using their new, large eccentric collars. I remain convinced this is because Canon is making automated optical adjustment of subgroups during assembly. Nobody else is adjusting to this degree or in this manner.

So Aaron put the lens back together, and I went off to vacation and to take some pictures to see if it reached my ‘acceptable for internet’ level of low expectations. Except, as I so clearly foreshadowed, the damn lens didn’t work. During reassembly, we buggered up the ‘barrel extended’ switch so the camera wouldn’t recognize the lens was ready to shoot.

Pride goeth before the fall, as they say. For the first time in our long history, we didn’t test the lens after reassembly, because ‘we got this.’ So a week later, Aaron’s going to have to take this lens apart again so we can figure out what we buggered up.

So we got an AFLE on this one; Another Frigging Learning Experience. And what did we learn? That we don’t want to work on the Canon RF 600mm f/11 IS STM. Life’s too short. When these break, they’re going to the Canon service center. Except for this one, cause those Canon techs would enjoy fixing what we broke far too much; we’re never going to tell them this happened.

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

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Addendum: Just to avoid having to answer 4 times in the comments; Aaron did fix the lens, turns out this switch had to be put one way during reassembly, and we put it the other.

 

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • Freejay

    I really don’t understand why your expectations are so low: ‘acceptable for internet’?
    This lens – at least my copy – is tack sharp! Ok, I didn’t look much at the corners, because usually that’s not where my visual point of interest lies, but I’m pretty sure that it is at least decent. And I’m already planing to print some of these pictures with more than 40:30 inch on canvas. I love this lens: Size, weight, sharpness, IS. The cons are of course F11, build quality and center-area-only AF. But for this price?

  • What an enjoyable read! Thanks for sharing this valuable experience and detailed steps of accurate exploration strategy. Great article!

  • Franz Graphstill

    Is it possible the long flex runs are because the barrel extends?

  • Eric Bowles

    Ouch – Throughout the description of your tear down I kept thinking that at $700 for a new lens, with a complicated design like this you could not afford to pay for a repair of any type. Buy the extended warranty and get a new lens if there is a problem.

    Thanks for sharing your miserable idea of fun.

  • Roger Cicala

    It’s the ‘extension lock’ switch, basically reports to the camera that the lens is extended and locked.

  • Craig

    Roger – I’m extremely curious to know why that switch is there inside
    a lens and why it would have a non-functioning position. Is it some
    kind of mechanical fuse function?

    Craig Johnson, sometimes proofreader

  • Jean-François Alexandre

    Thank you very much, Roger, for that clarification.Take care of you. Best regards.

  • Tom Cass

    I’m sure it’s repairable but it may cost more to repair it than the lens is worth. I can’t help but think a Sony RX10iv would out perform a camera with this lens attached. Most of the samples I’ve seen are quite soft and because the f11 on this lens is a full 3 stops slower than the f4 of the RX10iv it probably won’t be any better at high iso even on a FF camera. In addition the lens on the RX10iv zooms from 24-600. Sorry this lens makes no sense to me other than it’s cheap.

    What about the Tamron 150-600? It’s $1000 at B&H and is f6.3 at 600mm. Of course it is much bigger and heavier but is saving size and weight that important when you sacrifice so much IQ wise?

  • David Alexander

    I did that, and now I’m debating if I want to chuck the mirrorless gear too. Most of my photography is while backpacking, and the phones have gotten so good for the 15-100 focal range. It’s starting to feel ridiculous to lug an extra five pounds for the privilege of creating a lot of raw processing work when I get back.

  • GulliNL

    With Canon building such great lenses (and with great I mean; relatively ease to repair) one would almost think Canon designed the optical part and have someone else design the barrel and the electronics for them. This is three steps back from what we can expect and I am not confused this is just their way of saving money.

  • Roger Cicala

    Jean-Francois, they are certainly repairable. Two points: First, we were finding our way around this and it was clumsy. When Aaron redid the disassembly to fix it it was much quicker. However, once you get into the inner mechanism with the complex flexes, etc. it would be very time consuming and probably not worth the cost. I suspect that entire inner assembly, basically the working parts of the lens, is one part.

    So I think it would be worth the cost to do outer barrel replacements, filter assembly replacements, but most other repairs will be ‘replace the entire inner barrel assembly’ which probably would cost as much as a replacement lens. There are a number of lenses that are already that way.

  • DrJon

    I suspect the Canon repair centre have a magical object called a “repair manual”… says stuff like “make sure this switch is to the left before disassembly”… also how to centre the elements…. 🙂

  • Ernst Müller

    Roger and Aaron:
    As a physicist, the documentation and discussion of „diffraction optics“ always leaves me with a doubt: 1) is it really based on diffraction as the name and text indicate, meaning interference of waves passing through a diffraction lattice (may be a
    curved and segmented one)? This would make sense because of the inverse dispersion (dependency on wave length) compared to refraction. Or 2) is it just a Fresnel lens based on refraction and the refractive index of the element, just more compact than a normal lens, as the picture in your article shows it and some comments mention? I suppose that you understand the fundamental difference.

  • Forgot: Great entertainment!

  • Some time back I read about a guy who made a lens out of a Canon 500D (77mm size) and a plastic tube, and the remains of an extension tube (for the mount) that worked great. No IS/OS/VR though, nor AF!

    That was also a f/11.0 lens!

    One wonders when close-up lenses (aka filters) will start using Fresnel elements?

  • Jean-François Alexandre

    To make a long story short, can we say that these two new f/11 telephoto lenses are irreparable?

  • Jay Kaye

    Who can even imagine the engineering of such devices?

  • cpt kent

    In my mind, someone somewhere in a design meeting exclaimed “not that way, that’s what they’re expecting!”

  • H.A.

    Are the traces perhaps done that way to work with the extending barrel?

  • Dragon

    So now you have to wait until next year to find out if it takes decent pictures :-). If Canon MTF charts include diffraction, then the chart is almost identical to the 100-500 except for f number. I suspect that with a little extra sharpening it will produce very nice images for the money and the weight. The 100-500 is also quite light for its reach, so if you have the money, one of those with a 1.4 extender would be the more flexible choice. The 800 f/11 is maybe the more interesting one of the pair. When are you going to have an MTF jig for the R system?

  • Chik Sum

    Right Roger, I thought you stuck onto the old DSLR, personally I still feels like seeing the actual scene through an Ovf is more of an enjoyment but I agree the mirror less should be the future, pure functionality and performance wise I feels like the R6 would be better as successor to my first production run 5D mk III. I doubt with pretty high usage can the R6 be as durable as the 5Ds especially consider electronic ages with constant heat and use which creates more dead pixels through time

  • Ha, back around 2012 Canon quoted me $120 to replace the AF/MF switch of my $80 50mm f/1.8. I literally started laughing and pointed out that I could replace the entire lens for cheaper than that. The tech went and spoke to the supervisor, then said they would do the job for $100. I walked out.

  • Roger Cicala

    My best guess, and it’s just that, is each subassembly gets put on a jig and measured by computer. Not sure if it tells a tech ’60 degrees right’ or if a computer arm plugs into that eccentric and just does it. I WANT to think it’s the latter, and I’m sure if it’s not, it will be one day soon.

  • Roger Cicala

    Chik, it’s worse than that. I sold or gave away ALL of my SLR gear, mostly gave away to some kids starting out. I wasn’t in a hurry to move to mirrorless, but I do think that’s where the future is.

  • Roger Cicala

    Vladimir, I’m guessing $400 or more, but it’s just a guess. We don’t have a parts price yet.

  • JosephAndrews

    Roger and Aaron:

    Thanks for this update…allowing for my imagination to move in a fun direction (away from COVID et al).

    Although part of the fun is knowing that I’m not the one doing what you two are doing, which requires skill and patience that I sometimes do not possess.

    As I’ve posted previously, I always marvel at the reduction in the length of time it takes to take apart (and then reassemble) a laptop or a phone…the second (or third) time I do it.

    The first time…with an unfamiliar device…is always a special challenge.

    I also appreciate so much…the unvarnished truth that you described: the lens didn’t work after reassembly.

    D’oh!

    When I have a need (and I will) I’m going to rent the Canon 11-24 lens from your company for a week or so, Roger…in part as thanks for these wonderful articles.

    Bravo!

  • Vladimir Gorbunov

    Great article!
    I’m really intrigued to hear your best estimations of repair bill for scratched front element. Is it still lower than the cost of the lens itself?

  • Andreas Werle

    Thanks for Posting this, Aaron and Roger!
    Always a pleasure to read your Blog-Post. This barrel-to-barrel-junction did remind me to a pretty expensive Sony lens, which happens to break just over there. Obviously Canon wanted to prevent anything like this. And alas, the heat-gun (melt or die) offers a cheap replacement of the filter-ring! And after all the flex-anarchy we indeed have some soldered flexes – greetings from Nikon! 😀
    Wonderful, much enjoyed it!
    Andreas

  • Athanasius Kirchner

    Damn, that must’ve been rough. I wanted to hear your impressions on the lens, too.

    I’m interested in your hypothesis regarding Canon’s computerized adjustment. Do you mean that Canon have developed a fully-automated testing and adjustment setup for lenses? Or maybe the software just tells a human operator “tighten this screw three turns, and loosen the other half a turn”?

  • Chik Sum

    off topic a bit, as in you arn’t committed to a mirrorless system yet statment. I am in the same camp but since my reason is stubbornness, may I ask why you still cling on the DSLR system till now to own it personally?

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