Lenses and Optics

Finally, Some m4/3 MTF Testing: 25mm Prime Lens Comparison

This blog is a little different. It’s geekier than most, of course. Also, I don’t use it to make income, and that makes it a bit scattered. A mainstream blog has to cover all the hot topics. I get to cover what I’m interested in at the moment. More importantly, I don’t have to cover everything, so you rarely see me writing about stuff I don’t understand.

Another benefit is I get to watch with great amusement as various Fanboys speculate on why I don’t write about their favorite product. The actual reason is usually that the company hasn’t released lenses that interest me (Nikon in 2017, for example) or I don’t have mounts to test them (Fuji and Pentax).

Micro 4/3 is a bit different. I can test most of them (the m4/3 mount we have can’t handle linear electromagnetic focusing lenses, but can handle all the others) but it requires taking time to set up the machine differently. Since most of our contract testing is for full-frame lenses, that makes it a little inconvenient to do m4/3, and because I’m old and grumpy, I tend to avoid inconvenience.

25mm Micro 4/3rd shootout

But now it’s the holidays, we don’t have any contract testing lined up, so I am going to test some of the more interesting m4/3 lenses. So now you m4/3 shooters are getting equal opportunity to read too-long articles full of charts and graphs just like everyone else. Like they say, “be careful what you ask for, you might get it.”

As we start looking at these, I want to emphasize a couple of things, because many m4/3 users will be new to this blog. First, we’re testing the lenses with no camera involved; all we’re evaluating is the optics. My interest is in the lenses, and the lenses only. Making lenses for a smaller imaging circle has some distinct theoretical advantages. Whether the lensmakers use those advantages for good and make better lenses, or for evil to cut corners and raise margins, well, that interests me quite a bit.

When you take a picture, you’re using the system (the camera and lens each add their limitations). Despite what many self-described experts say, it is very, very rare that just the lens or just the camera limit the output of the system. In practical terms, unless you have a really horrid lens, or a 4 megapixel camera, both camera and lens contribute to the final output. (If you have both a horrid lens and a 4 megapixel camera then you don’t need to be reading this.)

One other point: with m4/3 lenses you can’t make broad generalizations about the name on the outside, because that doesn’t necessarily reflect who made the components on the inside. So if the Olympus 25mm f/1.2 is pretty awesome (it is), for example, don’t take that to mean all Olympus lenses are pretty awesome (they aren’t). The name on the outside means “We paid the people who designed the lens, made the different components, and assembled it. Some of them actually work for us, some don’t, and the ones who did this lens didn’t necessarily do that other lens.”

Let’s Meet Today’s Players

We have several lenses that meet the criteria of being 25mm primes and being testable on our machine.

Notably missing from this list is the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7, because, as its Fanboys will probably tell you shortly, everyone knows it’s far better than all the others, and I wanted to keep that a secret. Or because it has an electromagnetic focusing motor and we can’t test it on the optical bench. Take whichever theory best suites your degree of paranoia.

I’ll also mention that while we usually test 10 copies of each lens, but when we get into m4/3 mounts, ten copies can be hard to come by. For that reason we’ve only tested five copies of the Voigtlander, that’s all we had in stock.

The Olympus 25mm f/1.2 ED Pro

We start with this lens because it’s considered an excellent new design that has been very popular. It’s by far the most expensive of this group at about $1,200. It contains multiple low dispersion and high refraction, as well as a single aspheric element. On the other hand, 19 elements make this a very complex lens, which made us wonder what copy-to-copy variation would be like.

Courtesy Olympus.com

 

Olympus Digital 25mm f/1.8

The other extreme is the little Olympus Digital 25mm. At $249 it’s the bargain lens of the bunch and it’s also the smallest. It doesn’t have as wide an aperture. It has two aspheric elements, but at this price range, we expect those are molded. So, we started with low expectations, but at this price, just a decent showing would make this a lens worth considering.

Olympus. com

Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 25mm f/1.4 ASPH

At $600 this lens has a reasonable price, it’s not very large physically, has an f/1.4 aperture, and despite what I consider the stupidest hood design in all of photography history, has a fairly rabid following who love it. It has two aspheric elements and the simplest design of all the lenses we tested. Plus, it says Leica and Summilux on the front, and we all know what that means — they paid Leica to put ‘Leica’ and ‘Summilux’ on the front. In case I wasn’t clear, I went into this test a little cynical about this lens. It’s an older design, and I expected the newer design of the Olympus might have passed it by.

Panasonic.com

Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95 Nokton Type II

I maintain complete impartiality when it comes to lenses. Except I despise all things Voigtlander. Not because their lenses are bad, but because customer service is nonexistent and repairs nearly impossible to obtain, at least in the U. S. But at f/0.95 and a reasonable (for that kind of aperture) price tag of $800, this lens has to be considered for those who are willing to focus manually. Plus it has an all-metal construction which provides two advantages. First, it weighs a lot more. Second, you can describe it as ‘built like a tank’, which, of course, means ‘I don’t know anything about lens construction, but this one sure is heavy.’

Courtesy Voigtlander

OPTICAL TESTS

MTF Results

These results are all taken at widest aperture, so it’s not a direct comparison optically; a smaller aperture gives a better MTF. They’ll all improve stopped down a bit (more on that later). These MTFs are the average of 10 samples for all except the Voigtlander, which is the average of 5 samples.

Olympus 25mm f/1.2 ED Pro

This is actually very good for an f/1.2 lens, much better than the Canon 50mm f/1.2, for example. It maintains excellent sharpness in the center half of the image. It’s still quite sharp, although with some astigmatism, out to the edge.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Olympus Digital 25mm f/1.8

Here’s my first surprise of this testing batch. The little Olympus is really quite good. It falls off and has some astigmatism in the outer 1/3 of the image a bit, but not badly.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 25mm f/1.4 ASPH

The Panasonic was a bit disappointing. Even though it’s tested at a smaller aperture than the Olympus Pro, it doesn’t resolve nearly as well in the center. This is especially true of the higher frequencies (green, blue, and purple lines) which are critical for fine detail resolution on cameras with smaller pixels. It does maintain good resolution out to the edge of the frame, though.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95 Nokton Type II

This one was also better than I expected. It resolves decently in the center and falls off at the edges. But at f/0.95 that’s unavoidable. I was impressed that it could do this well. Lenses with apertures this wide are rarely this good. Right in the center, it resolves as well at f/0.95 as the Panasonic does at f/1.4.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Stop-Down Tests

We picked an average copy of the Voigtlander and Olympus 25mm f/1.2 to retest at f/1.4, to get a little more even comparison. (And used an average copy of the Panasonic for comparison, so we weren’t comparing single lenses to a group of lenses.)

Panasonic – Olympus

The Olympus was clearly better at higher frequencies (blue and purple lines). If you’re shooting with (or looking at a test done on) a 12-megapixel camera, the high frequencies are less important.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Voigtlander-Olympus

The Voigtlander surprises me yet again. It can match, perhaps slightly exceed, the Olympus in the center 1/2 of the image, although it can’t (like all ultra-wide aperture lens designs) keep up in the outer 1/3 of the image.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2014

Olympus 25mm f1.8 and Olympus 25mm f/1.2 Pro at f/1.4

I didn’t test the Pro at f/1.8. To be honest, I didn’t think there would be enough competition that I’d be interested. So I’ll have to compare the Pro at f/1.4 to the Digital f/1.8 at f/1.8. Not really fair, since the Pro would do better at f/1.8. On the other hand, you can buy 4 of the little Digital f/1.8 for the price of one Pro, so . . . . .

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

It’s kind of shocking to me that the Digital f/1.8 is significantly sharper in the center. Things even up away from the center, but still, that’s impressive. Really. Impressive. Good job little-inexpensive-lens.

Comparisons at f/2.8

Because sometimes people stop down.

Olympus vs. Olympus

At f/2.8 the Pro is definitely superior in the outer 1/3 of the image, but the baby Olympus still impresses me with its performance at f/2.8.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Panasonic Leica vs. Olympus Pro

At f/2.8 there’s not a lot of difference between the two. The Olympus is a bit better at the edges of the image, but it’s a small difference.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Voigtlander vs. Olympus Pro

Not surprisingly, the Olympus is now a tiny better than the Voigt in the center, and far better in the outer half of the image.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Field Curvature (MTF vs. Field vs. Focus)

For those of you who don’t read our technical articles very often, the field curvature may be the most useful thing we give you. This is NOT distortion; rather it’s how the plane of best focus curves. The tangential and sagittal fields often curve differently; when they do you know, there will be astigmatism in those areas.

There’s other information you can get from field curvatures and if you’re interested here are some background articles: Fun with Fields of Focus 1, Fun with Fields of Focus II, Field Curvature and Stopping Down. I should mention these are done at f/5.6 because that gives a nice, clear picture of the field. Stopping down (or opening up) doesn’t change the curvature significantly. Keep in mind that when you’re shooting at a wider aperture, the field is much narrower.

We haven’t done these on many m4/3 lenses, so I had no idea what to expect. Because there’s less side-to-side distance to cover, it seemed likely that the field curvature would be less apparent.

Olympus 25mm f/1.2 ED Pro

There’s a gentle curve with this lens, but note that the sagittal field (right side) curves differently than the tangential field (left side). This means that while the overall field is flat, there is going to be some astigmatism off-center. The MTF graphs above reflect that.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Olympus Digital 25mm f/1.8

Here we see a more dramatic curve, but more of a tendency to be in the same direction. At wide apertures, though, the edges of the image are not going to be in focus at the same point that the center is. With this one, the field will truly curve. This also explains that the MTF curves above drop off at the edges, not because the lens is weaker, but because the field is curving away.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 25mm f/1.4 ASPH

Here we have two very different curves. The sagittal is almost perfectly flat; the tangential is in a W shape. This lens will have some mid-field astigmatism that will clear up near the edges, but will be pretty flat otherwise.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95 Nokton Type II

Here’s yet another surprise to me. I really expected the ultra-wide aperture lens would have severe field curvature, but it’s not too bad. There will be edge astigmatism (where the U-shaped tangential curve continues up, while the M-shaped sagittal curve turns down). There will be a slightly curved overall field.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Copy-to-Copy Variation

Micro 4/3 lenses, in general, have a lot of sample variation. Why this is I can’t say. What I can say is it’s not the fabled “QA check” that people imagine happens. Optical tolerance is done during the design of the lens and the assembly line, not by running a test at the end of manufacturing. Micro 4/3 lenses, as a rule, don’t have any compensating adjustable elements, so what you get at the end of the assembly line is what you get unless something is broken inside.

With these lenses, I wasn’t sure what to expect. The Olympus Pro is a complex lens; complexity and wide aperture tend to create a lot of variation. The Panasonic Leica and Olympus Digital f/1.8 are much simpler designs.

I’ve added the Variance Number to these graphs, although I want to point out that a number is a blunt tool; it’s not nearly as useful as looking at the graphs. As a rule, we consider prime lenses to be acceptable if the Variance number is less than 40, and random crap shoots if it’s over 80. So here are the graphs and variance numbers for the three lenses we could run them on. (We don’t consider five copies enough to comment on variance, so we skipped the Voigtlander in this part of the post.)

Olympus 25mm f/1.2 Pro

It looks better than the variance number suggests, but there’s some significant variation particularly in overall sharpness (notice how even in the center, there’s a fairly thick area).

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Olympus 25mm Digital f/1.8

The variance number says it’s quite good, but the widening as you go away from center shows that there’s likely to be some difference in one side or the other on a given copy. The current variance number doesn’t take this into account as much as I would like it to.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

Panasonic Leica Summilux f/1.4

Any way you look at it, there’s a lot of copy-to-copy variation, more in overall sharpness. This is getting close to the point where your copy and Bob’s copy are probably noticeably different.

Olaf Optical Testing, 2018

 

So What Did We Learn Today?

Well, there are several good choices if you’re interested in a 25mm prime lens for your m4/3 camera. There’s not a bad choice in the bunch; I think most people would be happy with whichever one they have.

If you absolutely need an f/1.4 or wider aperture lens, the Olympus 25mm f/1.2 Pro is probably the best overall lens, although it comes at a hefty price. If you want the widest aperture possible and are willing to manually focus and realize you probably can’t get it repaired, the Voigtlander Nokton Type II is much better optically than I had expected.

The Pansonic Leica Summilux is a good lens, and at 2/3 the price of the Olympus Pro is a reasonable choice for a lot of people. It’s certainly not better, and the copy-to-copy variation makes me hesitant to recommend it very highly. On the other hand, as I said to start with, I’m a little cynical about that lens so maybe that’s affecting my judgment. It’s still a good lens at a reasonable price.

Me personally, though, I love a bargain, and in this case, I’d be willing to give up some aperture to get it. The little Olympus 25mm f/1.8 isn’t as wide an aperture as the others. Even stopped down, it’s not quite as sharp at the edges as either the Olympus Pro or the Panasonic Leica. But at that price and that small size, it’s a great bargain and a really good lens. This one surprised me in a very positive way.

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

Lensrentals.com

January, 2018

 

Note: It’s been a while since we did an m4/ test. For those of you m4/3 Fanboys and Detractors who are so vocal in some forums, this isn’t those forums. We welcome informed discussion and opinions. We do not allow snide, or ugly personal comments to other posters. I’m not a poster; you can be snide and ugly to me if you like.

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • Pak T

    Someone needs to lighten up. Jeez. You come across as a fanny orifice. Looking at your profile I see your interest is striving to be that.

  • KG

    That’s not a phrase, it’s a weird phone correction, and I’m not the one writing a supposed serious article. So you’re still a fanny. Also correct grammar would be “correcting other people’s grammar” – double fail.

  • When correcting others spelling and grammar, perhaps you should avoid phrases like “looks you look”.

  • KG

    When trying to be a smart-arse, at least spell check so you don’t look even dumber: “Take whichever theory best suites your degree of paranoia.” I doubt the 25 1.7 has “fanboys” – what it does have is a lot of interested people who are looking to get into the M43 system on the cheap. Leaving it out looks you look a smug elitist fanny.

  • DrJon, you’re totally correct about distortion. That’s why I didn’t include distortion numbers, the m4/3 cameras all correct it so the numbers we see through the lens don’t agree with what people see through the camera.

  • Kachadurian

    I’m with you on the Pan-Leica hood. What were they thinking?

  • We’re actually looking into evaluating actual T stop of lenses, but it’s way more complicated that I had expected. We may pull it off, but not certain yet.

  • DrJon

    Presumably the actual m43 lens user will also be affected by the amount of distortion and how much some of the image is spread-out (and using what algorithm) by geometric correction inside the camera before they get to see the image. A lens with a lot of distortion will presumably fall away more (and even the centre will be scaled somewhat).

    Interestingly DXO does distortion correction using their own measurements and I get a wider FoV with some lenses than using the “official” scaling. Also scaling may not fix all the error, e.g. the 12-35 has a lot of native distortion (5.8% at 12mm according to PhotoZone) but the “official” correction doesn’t correct all of it and leaves about 1.6%.

    BTW I still don’t think I’d swap my 20mm f/1.7 mk I for any of these, I’m a bit sad that it didn’t get tested as I think it’s quite good (but understand it failed the “is it 25mm” test).

  • Samuel H

    Yes, and you also have to raise the ISO of the big-sensor cameras to compensate for that, whenever you do sensor-level comparisons (noise, DR, etc).

    (I came down here to ask the lp/mm question, glad to have it nicely answered already; comparing the 40lp/mm lines here with the 20lp/mm lines on any FF lens MTF review, the result is clear: if you care a lot about sharpness you’ll want a bigger sensor)

  • mohammad mehrzad

    One thing that seems to be missing from both your books is aperture equivalency.
    the pro has to be ” twice as good as the 50 L, to be as good”, when it is compared to the 50 L stopped down to f/2.4, to have the same DoF and same amount of total light hitting the sensor.
    (also ducks and runs..)

  • Brandon Dube

    > But should the Canon MTF curves be compared to m4/3 MTF curves of twice
    the numerical value to compensate for difference in sensor size and the
    corresponding different magnification required for the same display
    size? So the Olympus 40 lpmm MTF curve would be compared to the Canon
    20 lpmm MTF curve?

    In short, yes. Olaf can tread water (read: kind-of-sort-of-break-even-and-buy-more-toys) because we’ve automated most of what we do to death. These M4/3 lenses are shown on our same 10..50 “FF scale” in part to keep shoving the data through the same pipeline as we undergo software upgrades, and in part to make some comparisons that should be forthcoming shortly enough.

    > If the Olympus 25mm f1.2 lens on a m4/3 camera and the Canon 50mm f1.2
    lens on a “full frame” camera, both with say 20 megapixel sensors, …

    The 25/1.2 is about as good as the Otus 55 at f/1.4, on an absolute scale. (reading fanboys note: it has to be twice as good on an absolute scale to be “as good”). It’s about 25% better than the 50/1.2L in the center, and smokes it in the corners. If you had asked if the Otus 55 or the Olympus 25 delivered the more apparently sharp image, it would be the otus no contest. Really that comparison would work with most any more recent 50 (Zony 55, Sony 50/1.4 FE, Sigma 50, tamron 45/1.8, etc). The 50L is older and worse. I would hazard that the 50L would look a little sharper, but wouldn’t want to be too committal about that.

  • David Cockey

    A question about interpreting MTF charts for lens intended for use with different size sensors. Roger commented “This is actually very good for an f/1.2 lens, much better than the Canon 50mm f/1.2, for example.” I assume that is based on comparing MTF curves for the same lp/mm. But should the Canon MTF curves be compared to m4/3 MTF curves of twice the numerical value to compensate for difference in sensor size and the corresponding different magnification required for the same display size? So the Olympus 40 lpmm MTF curve would be compared to the Canon 20 lpmm MTF curve?

    If the Olympus 25mm f1.2 lens on a m4/3 camera and the Canon 50mm f1.2 lens on a “full frame” camera, both with say 20 megapixel sensors, are used to photograph the same scene and the resulting images were displayed at the same size, would there be an appreciable difference in apparent sharpness and if so which would be appear sharper?

  • hjwulff

    My thanks also for these tests. M4/3 is my most used system for versatile everyday shooting, and having or having used all of these lenses your tests back up my experience. When the Panasonic 25/1.4 came out, there wasn’t much else and the results on a 12mp body were quite good, but now the lens doesn’t impress that much anymore. Something you didn’t test also bothers me about the 25mm f1/4, and that is that the t-stop seems awfully close to that of the 25/1.7 Olympus, making the 25/1.4 even less interesting. I recently got the 25/1.2 Olympus and when I don’t mind the bulk, that lens gets the nod.

  • hjwulff

    Seems to me it’s more like f/18. My Apo-Symmar 300 is also way faster at f/5.6. Puny little formats.

  • LOL – Don’t you start, Claudia!!

  • No problem Brandon. I appreciate your time and responses as usual. Rest up and get better soon!

  • Brandon Dube

    That would be a very poor way of tackling the problem. The individual MTFs you get from that are only as meaningful as the scenes you can find that have spectra like that. There is no way to process out specific spectra after the capture. I’m also sick and need to rest, and don’t want to make an already long thread longer. Please email technicalsupport@olafoptical.com if you want to discuss more.

  • I was thinking that you’d focus and measure the white light, and then spectrally bandpass the results afterwards so that you could compare the MTFs for the individual spectra to see chromatic aberration.

  • Brandon Dube

    We can do whatever spectral composition we want. White or photopic light are the best general options (white for, well, white things and photopic to to-some-extent duplicate the weight given to green by the bayer pattern).

    I do not know why we would want, a narrowband blue, green, or red spectra-associated MTF. Aside from color LEDs or lasers, I can’t think of many things in the world that have a small spectrum. Even highly saturated things like flowers for example have substantial spectral size. If you want to mimic the CFA of a camera, then those too have large spectral profiles.

  • Right, that makes sense. What I’m wondering is if you collect full-spectrum PSFs (point-spread functions), and that’s an assumption I’m making since I don’t know how these optical bench MTF things actually work, why can’t you filter out individual frequencies from the full-spectrum PSFs (eg. bandpass the green part, for example) and compute individual MTFs for those bandpassed spectra? Or is it that you do actually collect R, G, and B in isolation? If so, then I see that you can’t do it.

  • Brandon Dube

    I think the 10MP vs 20MP is more about low-light than lens resolution as far as the design of that camera goes. Bigger pixels can capture more photons (= improved DR) and also are less crowded (= less sources of noise), both of which improve high ISO performance.

    If the camera doesn’t use binning with the 20MP chip, opting for line skipping or a crop, the 10MP result should be superior in terms of sharpness. It is, at least, less demanding of the lens.

  • SpecialMan

    Fantastic story. Thanks for mustering up the courage to venture into terra incognita….
    You dropped an intriguing nugget there when you said “on a 12-megapixel camera, the high frequencies are less important.”
    Could that be part of the reason that the just-released Panasonic GH5s has a 10.2 mp sensor? Will video look sharper with existing lenses when shot on a 10mp sensor vs. a 20mp sensor?

  • Claudia Muster

    Meh. Considering this so-called f/1.2 is actually only a f/2.4 … (duck and run).

  • Cary Talbot

    Yay for MFT testing! Thanks for giving us MFT fans some nerdy goodness to devour. I’m certainly no lens expert but one thing that I’ve always liked about Oly lenses is that in my experience, even the lower end (cheaper) lenses seem to perform well – better than one might expect given their price, just as you found with the Digital f/1.8. Maybe it stems from the fact that Olympus is first and foremost a lens company (their bread & butter is microscopes). I don’t think they make much (if any) money off of their camera business. In some ways it seems like a bit of a hobby, in fact. But I’m sure glad they still enjoy making cameras and lenses for them.

  • Brandon Dube

    Imagine you have an RGB LED light source. You have a narrow blip in red, one in blue, and one in green. The thing in the image plane is the sum of the R + G + B images. If R, G, B are focused at different depths, you have at least two out of focus images added up. This is called axial color.

    If you measure MTF for R, G, B in isolation, you get the best focus MTF for each and axial color is completely removed. That doesn’t tell you about the performance for white light.

    Each would also be different because of the chromatic version of each monochromatic aberration. I.e. spherochromatism, a change in spherical aberration with color, would mean that blue could have a lot of spherical aberration, and green very little. Green would have closer to diffraction limited MTF than blue, and be a lot better.

  • Brandon, thanks for explaining in more detail. So if you measured the MTF separately for each wavelength, they would presumably be different. If so, what would those differences be caused by?

  • It’s simply a cost – benefit thing. A basic mount costs us about $800-$1,000. Additionally, some of the most interesting lenses are electromagnetic (linear focusing), so we would have to make an electronic mount. That about doubles the mount cost, and we have to buy a dedicated camera to use when testing them. Pentax and Fuji are more popular now than when we got the bench several years ago, but that’s a significant chunk of change for adding either. I will one of these days, but Olaf is a nonprofit (as in we don’t make any money, not as in we’re charitable), so not for a while.

  • Franck Mée

    Hello Roger,
    well, what I learnt today was that you don’t test Pentax because you don’t have the proper mount.
    That comes as a surprise, since the K-mount basic specifications were public in the 80s, all except the most recent low-cost lenses have mechanical focusing rings so there would be no need for electrical focus control, and all except the most recent 55-300mm lens have a good old-fashioned mechanical linkage for the diaphragm.
    So I would have thought it would have been the easiest mount to get working on an optical bench.

    (Plus, as a Pentax user, I’d love to see how all the Ltd FA pancakes and some surprisingly un-vignetting DA lenses fare on a bench. I did ask Pentax; they politely but firmly refused to let met borrow all of them, and I don’t have the funds to buy ten copies of each. Plus I don’t have a bench.)

    Anyway, it’s good to have an answer to a question I didn’t even know I was asking myself. Bravo !

  • Brandon Dube

    You would not want to take R, G, B components from a multispectral MTF measurement and call that something about CA. Monochromatic measures don’t give you chromatic performance! What you would instead want to do, as a first stab, is to measure the axial color (~=purple fringing), which we can do, and assign some of the loss of MTF to that instead of, say, spherical aberration or astigmatism.

    Off-axis you could do something similar for lateral color, but lateral color would take ages on our machine since we don’t have a motorized color filter wheel.

    There are complicated chromatic aberrations like spherochromatism and the chromatic variants of astigmatism and coma, it would take tremendous effort to reach an understanding of them from MTF, and in modern, high-complexity high performance lenses, they are probably as about as significant as any other aberration in limiting the final performance.

  • Roger and Aaron, thanks once again for an interesting and cool comparison! To your point that MTF is not the end-all-be-all of lens reviews, I would personally never use the Panasonic Leica 25/1.4 again. While it may be sharp, it has pretty large amounts of chromatic aberration especially wide open that make it unsuitable for me. I currently use the 25/1.7, but will keep my paranoid conspiracy theories to myself … for now. 🙂

    I wish there was a way to derive CA performance information from the MTF, but Brandon tells me it can’t be done: the idea was that since you guys use multiple wavelengths of light to measure MTF, if you could derive MTF curves separately from the red, green, and blue components of the light, the separation of those curves should tell you about the CA performance since they won’t overlap with CA present.

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