Just MTF Charts

Just the MTF Charts: 70-200mm f2.8 Zoom Lenses

Well, I’ve avoided putting up the zoom lenses as long as I could, but here we are. I’m going to do things a little differently; rather than listing by brand I’m going to try listing by range and type. I’m suspicious of it because it’s going to bring out the Brand Zealots who for some reason find self-worth in owning this brand or that. But it makes sense for a couple of reason. First, zooms require three MTF charts each, and second, some brands have a zillion zooms and some two or three.

Please, let’s try to keep things logical in the comments. If you are triumphant that Brand X lens is better than Brand Y, well, honestly that says a lot more about you than it does about Brands X and Y. And what it says about you makes me sad. You don’t want to make me sad, do you?

Finally, let me put some facts out to start with because some of you may not be familiar with them.

First, most (but not all) of you are aware that zooms are not primes. Every zoom ever made is better at specific focal lengths than at others. I know many of you don’t want it to be so, because you want to know this zoom scores 72.1 and this other one is a 68.4. But MTFs are useful for grown-up photographers who consider their lens a tool. These photographers want to know where their tool works best and worst so they may use its strengths and avoid its weaknesses. You will sometimes find that brand X’s zoom is better at one end, and brand Y’s zoom better at the other. So it goes.

Second, while I’m not going to put out variance graphs (yet), remember that all zooms vary more than primes. All. Every one ever. There are no exceptions. So the average zoom MTF is a broad brush; you can get tendencies from this but not ‘this is how your copy will look pixel peeping information.’ The average data may show that the Wunderbar 70-200mm is sharper at 70mm than at 200mm. Something like 15% to 30% of copies, though, might be sharper at 200mm so if yours is sharper at 200mm, well good for you. Similarly, the Wunderbar may be sharper than the Ultraboy 70-200mm on average. But if you compare one copy of each, 20% to 30% of the Ultraboys could be sharper than the Wunderbar.

That’s how averages and statistics work. So remember when you look at these, we’re showing you trends with a lot of variation. Depending on how you calculate it, between twice to four times the variation that primes have. So please don’t find a small difference and think ‘so this lens is much better’. The reality for that is something like ’57 out of 100 lenses are better’.

For these reasons, on the zoom lenses, I will make some broad comments about things I consider strong tendencies for a given lens that you’ll probably notice. Those are just my opinions, and everybody’s got one, but concerning MTF, mine is the correct one. Notice I don’t give opinions about focusing, or bokeh, or flare, etc. because my opinion isn’t worth doodly on that.

A Quick How to on Reading MTF Charts

If you’re new here, you’ll see we have a scientific methodology to our approach, and use MTF charts to measure lens resolution and sharpness. All of our MTF charts test ten of the same lenses, and then we average out the results. MTF (or (or Modulation Transfer Function) Charts measure the optical potential of a lens by plotting the contrast and resolution of the lens from the center to the outer corners of the frame. An MTF chart has two axis, the y-axis (vertical) and the x-axis (horizontal).

The y-axis (vertical) measures how accurately the lens reproduces the object (sharpness), where 1.0 would be the theoretical “perfect lens.” The x-axis (horizontal) measures the distance from the center of a lens to the edges (measured in millimeters where 0mm represents the center, and 20mm represents the corner point). Generally, a lens has the greatest theoretical sharpness in the center, with the sharpness being reduced in the corners.

Tangential & Sagittal Lines

The graph then plots two sets of five different ranges. These sets are broken down into Tangential lines (solid lines on our graphs) and Sagittal (dotted lines on our graphs). Sagittal lines are a pattern where the lines are oriented parallel to a line through the center of the image. Tangential (or Meridonial)  lines are tested where the lines are aligned perpendicular to a line through the center of the image.

From there, the Sagittal and Tangential tests are done in 5 sets, started at 10 lines per millimeter (lp/mm), all the way up to 50 lines per millimeter (lp/mm). To put this in layman’s terms, the higher lp/mm measure how well the lens resolves fine detail. So, higher MTF is better than lower, and less separation of the sagittal and tangential lines are better than a lot of separation. Please keep in mind this is a simple introduction to MTF charts, for a more scientific explanation, feel free to read this article.

 

Canon 70-200mm f/2.8

We’ll start with by far the oldest design of currently produced zooms in this range. It’s a classic lens, considered good by all who have used it, but a decade or more away from being ‘best in class’. We expect the newer designs should be better, although that’s not always the case.

It also kind of sets the trends for all 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms (with a few exceptions): it’s sharper at 70mm than 200mm, gives a very good image in the center 1/2 of the field, but not so great an image in the corners. This isn’t a big deal for most photographers. Since these lenses are so commonly used for sports or portraits; the edges of the image are often not critical (and in fact, the photographer often loves that they are blurry).

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Canon 70-200mm f2.8 IS II (and III, they’re the same optically)

The IS II version is much better than the NON-IS both in the center and off-axis. It’s still relatively weaker at 200mm, but not as much of a drop-off as the NON-IS. Notice also there is less sagittal-tangential separation now; this indicates improvements of lateral color and/or astigmatism.

One thing to remember, the original version above still makes nice pictures. If you compare them side by side, you’ll notice the difference (better fine detail resolution and off-axis softness isn’t as dramatic), but you would never say the original version’s images suck. I started with these two because a lot of people are familiar with both, and it gives you some perspective to compare the MTF charts with your real-life experience.

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Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II

The Nikon VR II is a bit different than most 70-200 zooms; the weakest area (in most copies) is in the middle of the zoom range, but the performance at 200mm is pretty strong.

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Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR

I like to make fun of lenses with half-a-dozen initials in their name, but this Nikon set the standard for all 70-200mm lenses when it was released a few years ago, and is still the best of all of them. So no funs will be made.

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Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS

Welcome to the MTF of the most tested lens in our history. Why did we test so many copies? Because Sony fanboys (and employees) were absolutely, positively, certain this lens was the best 70-200mm EVER. It’s not. It’s a decent lens with a LOT of sample variation. A good copy of it is as good as a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II, which is an excellent lens. A lot of copies aren’t that good, though. Because I see so many stupid things posted about how this lens has been ‘fixed’ and new copies are better, here are a batch of recently tested ones. They are no different than all the other batches we’ve tested.

Full disclosure: I work with Sony. I like Sony. But I despise this lens in case you can’t tell; if you gave me one, I’d sell it the next day. I try to be impartial, but with this lens, I’m not, and I know it. The optical bench, however, is unbiased.

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Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD

Another lens with too damn many initials in its name; and this time it’s not good enough to avoid me mocking it. So I mock you, Divcusd. But while it isn’t too spectacular to mock, optically it’s quite good, very similar to the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II overall, but with a bit more emphasis on the edges staying strong at the wider end.

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Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 Sport

The Sigma has a pattern much like the Nikon VR II; it’s the sharpest of any of these in the center (but not the edges) at 70mm, gets a bit mediocre in the middle of the zoom range, and sharpens up at 200mm.

I’m going to use it as an example of why many people will rave about a 70-200mm lens that I’m critical about. Notice even at 135mm, the lens weakest point, it’s still excellent in the red and orange (lower frequency) curves. It will show reasonably large objects as very sharp and contrasty. It’s only in the higher frequencies (fine detail) that it’s not as good. Fine detail is often not as important as good contrast when using a 70-200mm lens.

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Just for Fun

I’m going to do Cinema lenses separately, but I thought some of you, at least would be interested to see how these relatively expensive photo lenses compare with a $21,000 Cinema 70-200mm T2.9 zoom.

Zeiss 70-200mm T2.9 Compact Zoom

If you are expecting that extra $18,000 buys you higher resolution, well, nope. What it buys is consistency, lack of focus breathing, a true parfocal image, and accurate focusing scale. In general cinema lenses don’t resolve detail as well as photo lenses; there’s no reason they should and really quite good reasons why they shouldn’t.

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200mm

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Summary

The summary is simple. If you shoot Nikon, treat yourself to the FL ED VR if you can afford it. If you shoot anything else, make your choice based on price, how the lens handles and focuses, etc. The MTF curves say they’re all pretty good.

 

Roger Cicala and Aaron Closz

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July, 2019

Author: Roger Cicala

I’m Roger and I am the founder of Lensrentals.com. Hailed as one of the optic nerds here, I enjoy shooting collimated light through 30X microscope objectives in my spare time. When I do take real pictures I like using something different: a Medium format, or Pentax K1, or a Sony RX1R.

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  • DrJon

    He did write this….
    blog/2010/11/how-to-test-a-lens/
    Which may or may not escape the Spam filter…

  • That explains why you can’t see the bottom if you move up (which is obvious) but doesn’t explain why lines in one direction have higher values than lines in the opposite direction.

  • DrJon

    Excellent question…

  • Brandon Dube

    Imagine you have a sphere that you’re looking at. If you’re dead nuts lined up to it, it’s completely symmetric and things should look the same no matter how your eye gazes. Now move your head up, say, 2/3 the diameter of the sphere. In the horizontal direction, it’s the same sphere it ever was. In the vertical axis, now you can’t see the bottom of it because the middle is in the way, and the profile looks different. This difference is the source of why the T and S performance can differ.

    A snowglobe makes a good play piece for this.

  • Brandon Dube

    There are more tangential aberrations than sagittal. It is nothing done by intention.

  • Brandon Dube

    I’d bet the designers of the lenses that breath so heavily are better at their jobs than you are at yours.

  • Antonio Sánchez

    I am curious, would this charts change much whether the lens is focusing at infinity or at close range?

  • TwoMetreBill

    Photographers get great photos from any lens. Imagers want to count the eyebrows on a gnat.

    Aside: lens breathing is just plain incompetent design, the designer(s) should be fired. Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 with 30% loss of focal length at close focus, their macros are even worse. The 70-200 f/4 gains 2% at 200, that team should be in charge of lens design.

  • Chik Sum

    they are all impressive, but after comparing and looking back at the classic F4 IS lens which I owned for 11 years, I’d say I’d be nicer to my bank account (and neck). current lens tbh is quite far above what we needed/wanted. maybe the premium lens are more of a weather sealing and constant aperture thing to most.

    as canon shooter I feel like I’d be more on the L lens, but the sigma is also interesting to me

  • SlvrScoobie

    came here to ask this. IS II USM vs… IS II USM…? but the first is a classic?

  • Anatoly Shapiro

    Well then i would like to see both those lenses on this comparison. Given the age of the canon drainpipe and the legendary status it holds among internet comments, mostly pointing out that it was optically superior to the modern versions, it would be interesting.

    While I’m sure Nikon has their own legendary lenses I am just not familiar with them, but of course would love to look into that as well(girlfriend shoots Nikon), could you be more specific than Old 80-200?

  • Gosh1

    Very interesting. Thank you for sharing all this hard work at the bench.
    Nikon have set high standards for anything in this guild of optics it puts out in the future…. not least the forthcoming 70-200 S-Nikkor for the Z System!
    And so we see the meaty data that explains the conclusions of Thom Hogan in his review of the current Nikkor 70-200:

    “somehow this new 70-200mm f/2.8E tests a lot like a prime. Let me put it a different way. If I were to test a 70mm f/2.8 prime and get the results I got from this zoom, I’d be happy. If I were to test a 135mm f/2.8 prime and get the results I got from this zoom, I’d be happy. If I were to test a 200mm f/2.8 prime and get the results I got from this zoom, I’d be more than happy. Indeed, at every focal length this lens is up in the “pretty darned good prime” territory. Enough so that I had to update my Rationalizing Lenses article. ….the only three primes I know of that perform better than the 70-200mm f/2.8E at the same focal length are the 200mm f/2, the recent Nikkor 105mm f/1.4E, and the 85mm f/1.4 Zeiss Otus. That’s saying a lot.”

  • GulliNL

    @rogercicala why didn’t you include both the Wunderbar and the Ultraboy charts? You sold them pretty well to me but how can I boast their quality if I can’t slap people with charts? (How do they compare in real life? I heard the Wunderbar has had some issues with bad copies in the past but the new batch should be spectacular!)

  • Athanasius Kirchner

    I’m no optical designer, but that would probably suggest that sagittal resolution is more important to lens designers than tangential, and that could be for good reasons – if nothing else, it’ll aid AF, since most systems search for vertical contrast (and sometimes horizontal too), and both axes fall under sagittal resolution.

  • Athanasius Kirchner

    I second Vladimir on both accounts.

  • Renaud Saada

    Roger, I remember you writing that the 200 L II was one of your favourite lenses until you saw the results of the 70-200 L IS II. The centre performance of the zoom is higher, but these results seem to demonstrate the prime is better if you consider the whole field, no ?

  • If it’s “one way or the other” then one would think that in the MFT the dotted lines would sometimes be higher and the solid would be higher in other lenses. In almost all cases though, the dotted lines are higher than their respective solid line. I don’t really understand why.

  • Can’t wait to see how the Nikon Z and Canon RF 70-200’s perform! Considering the eye-popping acuity I’ve seen from the existing RF L’s, I’m expecting a lot from the Canon at least, and of course the Nikon has quite some shoulders to stand on too.

  • Because lenses are made up of circles of glass, and depending on how the elements are actually constructed, they may have issues resolving detail one way or the other. (It’s not just vertical detail versus horizontal detail anywhere in the frame; it’s actually measured along lines emanating from the center of the frame. So horizontal/vertical is all relative.)

    (I did a terrible job of explaining that.)

  • Easy: Test it on an A7R2 or A7R3, with all factors of potential shake eliminated, and perfect focus on a highly textured flat subject. (Brick walls are popular, but I’m a hedge guy myself.) If it “looks good” to you, then test complete. (Chances are, if you haven’t noticed any softness yet, you won’t notice softness under a perfectly controlled static test…)

  • Not as good as the old Nikon 80-200 2.8. That thing is legendary. 😛

  • Anatoly Shapiro

    I wish you had the old canon 80-200 2.8L on that comparison, its magic for a reason

  • Arlington Brian

    Heya Roger, I know that no-good can come from asking this. I have a Sony 70-200 f 2.8, I love the real world images, everything is great with the world. So let’s assume I read this and was obsessed with knowing if that is a good or a bad copy, is there some reasonable test I can perform to compare it to a ‘known good’ copy?

    Can I see anything meaninfly if I print off a test sheet, and adapt my Canon 70-200 f2.8II and zoom them both in at 11:1, or is that too amatuer a test?

    I know I should just look at my real life images and be happy, but you created a monster (me) 🙂

  • I’m just curious why a lens would perform differently for Sagittal and Tangential lines. IE: why would it resolve one type of line better than another given the same line thickness/spacing and distance from center?

  • The Nikon looks impressive. Thanks for testing and publishing!

  • JordanViray

    The performance of the Tamron is impressive. I’ll have to add it to my shortlist.

  • Andreas Werle

    Thanks Roger for sharing your Data with us!

    May I have a question about the MTF-Chart of the Zeiss Cinema-Zoom. As I understand it, MTF-curves cannot distinguish such a lens from a usual Canon- or Nikon-Zoom. Can OLAF deliver any data, which are unique to Cine-Lenses, show specifically their quality and would it not be interesting to make those measurements?

    Greetings Andy

  • Vladimir Gorbunov

    The first batch of graphs bears the same captions as the second one: L IS USM II. Also which Tamron lens you tested, – G2 or original?

  • It’ll be interesting to see how things pan out when all of the MILC 70-200mm offerings are released.

  • Carleton Foxx

    My triumphant sense of self worth comes from just owning any camera at all. I’m particularly proud of the excellent photos I can coax from my Brownie Hawkeye. I’m like a low-rent Vivian Maier.

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